CoastalWx Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 There is hope on the horizon, uh stratosphere Yeah those EP vectors are trying to point towards the Pole meaning the waves may propagate better. It will take a lot to break down the PV, but it will probably come sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Disaster. Almost the entire country is above normal come next Wednesday on the Euro. There's almost no < 0C 850s in the nation. The CONUS progs look more fitting for Tax Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 We seem to have adapted a culture of pessimism, to a fault actually...regarding general overviews, as well as interpretation of guidance over individual events in time. Not sure why this is, but I suspect it somehow rooted in "defensive" posturing, perhaps to protect one's self from annihilated hope? If one chooses to never see the upshot/side of things, one never has to risk that. Good plan. Unfortunately, there is no science in that; this forum/resource et al becomes something other than a knowledge sharing nexus for those weather enthusiasts and educated alike. I read post where x,y,z model depicts a snow storm, and immediately it is petty picked apart to figure out why it is really saying rain, or is wrong because a,b,c doesn't agree ... all these tedious excerpts of a bad attitude. There isn't any detail provided in that bias that describes why event "could" happen. It's ad nauseam at times. As much as I too enjoy a good commiseration lamb-basting over the pattern, replete with sardonics/humor - objectivity shouldn't be dashed; can't be all con this and that, or one isn't objective. ...but I digress... I was really going to comment on the MJO. It's re-emerged from incoherency in Phase 4... The mean of the GEFs has it resuming eastward propagation while strengthening through Phase 5. Objectively, that is a bad omen for eastern N/A negative height departures. Should the AO/EPO/NAO remain at positive bay, there would be less to compensate for tropical forcing should a Phase 5 materialize, where forcing off that spatially would promote a trough over the Rockies and a return ...or perhaps resurgeance is more apropos, of the SE warm wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Well maybe...just maybe we are seeing the AK vortex weaken as we head into Jan. Models may be weakening it too fast, but it's been showing up now for a few days. I'm not talking about ridging in the PAC....just the vortex lifting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Can we please start a new thread. this one was a miserable failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Can we please start a new thread. this one was a miserable failure. chances are the next one will end the same way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Just went through the ski reports for most of NNE. Grim. I hope the marketing guys aren't reading these threads. My favorite was Wildcat who said their one top to bottom trail will be closed today due to fzra. Try Attitash down the road, they may be open. lol Never seen a ski area plug their competition. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolland Death Band Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Just went through the ski reports for most of NNE. Grim. I hope the marketing guys aren't reading these threads. My favorite was Wildcat who said their one top to bottom trail will be closed today due to fzra. Try Attitash down the road, they may be open. lol Never seen a ski area plug their competition. lol Peaks Resorts owns both. And yes, Wildcat needs better snowmaking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Peaks Resorts owns both. And yes, Wildcat needs better snowmaking... No kidding? When did that merger happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolland Death Band Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I think it was last year around Oct or Nov. I think its good for Wildcat in the long term, but all their old midweek deals went away. I don't ski much but I love that hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Nude on NY?? EC ensembles are warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Nude on NY?? EC ensembles are warm. Slight improvement still toward d14. Hopefully we can start getting some global scale changes toward mid Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Slight improvement still toward d14. Hopefully we can start getting some global scale changes toward mid Jan. It's trying. Step 1 is to just lift that hideous vortex out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Simply on the basis of bad juju this thread needs to die. I started a new one and I'm confident it will deliver us to the promised land. It's the holidays, let's lock the old thread and move forward with a new minty fresh pattern change thread. http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/31234-january-pattern-change-thread/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Slight improvement still toward d14. Hopefully we can start getting some global scale changes toward mid Jan. How warm do they look are we talking potential record warmth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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