dendrite Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Another lousy EC ens run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Give up on this winter guys. Seriously..get away from the wx ..Find something else you enjoy to occupy your time this winter. Our favorite season..one we wait all year for is shot to hell. Long range forecasts are only right when they go warm..Never cold. It's a waste of time this winter. We have nothing to look forward to wxwise so enjoy yor families or whatever it is that you like. You crack me up. 28.9/14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 You crack me up. 28.9/14 Maybe..but that wasn't my intention. I'm done . I'll be here for the social aspect ..but as far as wasting/investing time in some sort of winter pattern setting up for any period of time. F that. I picked up sticks and limbs on the lawn today. May as well get it ready for spring. The one thing that has bothered me and continues to bother me is all the flocks of Canadian geese flying around..Even 2-3 days ago. They are never here in December. That was when reality set in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Next Thu is really warm on the EC op with a fropa after ~8C 850s. Any cold we get is pretty much wasted. By d10 most of NAMER, aside from Nunavut and AK, is torching. Wretched. The Euro is cold in the mid range . The ensembles are not bad either. Maybe I am missing something that you are seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Maybe..but that wasn't my intention. I'm done . I'll be here for the social aspect ..but as far as wasting/investing time in some sort of winter pattern setting up for any period of time. F that. I picked up sticks and limbs on the lawn today. May as well get it ready for spring. The one thing that has bothered me and continues to bother me is all the flocks of Canadian geese flying around..Even 2-3 days ago. They are never here in December. That was when reality set in. At least we know we're screwed..unlike way back when: http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/index.php?/topic/226622-sne-post-traumatic-snowloss-disorder/page__st__600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 We probably will get lucky a few times with snow this winter, but probably not worth wasting much time on long range progs. When it finally does happen it will probably jump up at us fast when we least expect it. I can't see any consistent cold/snowy wx this year, but if we get a great 10 days at some point in January or February just make the best of it. Meanwhile it is a serious winter day here (sans snow cover of course) with ovc skies and now down to 24 degrees. Give up on this winter guys. Seriously..get away from the wx ..Find something else you enjoy to occupy your time this winter. Our favorite season..one we wait all year for is shot to hell. Long range forecasts are only right when they go warm..Never cold. It's a waste of time this winter. We have nothing to look forward to wxwise so enjoy yor families or whatever it is that you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Maybe..but that wasn't my intention. I'm done . I'll be here for the social aspect ..but as far as wasting/investing time in some sort of winter pattern setting up for any period of time. F that. I picked up sticks and limbs on the lawn today. May as well get it ready for spring. The one thing that has bothered me and continues to bother me is all the flocks of Canadian geese flying around..Even 2-3 days ago. They are never here in December. That was when reality set in. I'm taking the approach that the pattern is what it is. We'll get our chances regardless of a pattern being bad. Focus on the events, not the pattern. 28.7/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm taking the approach that the pattern is what it is. We'll get our chances regardless of a pattern being bad. Focus on the events, not the pattern. 28.7/15 Precisely the problem... the pattern is not going to yield any events.Like love and marriage...you can't have one... without the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The Euro is cold in the mid range . The ensembles are not bad either. Maybe I am missing something that you are seeing. I said any cold we get is transient and wasted. As for the ens...it's more of the same AK vortex through d15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The best approach is look out five, maybe seven days and just look for ways we might score some modest snow chances. I wouldn't spend too much time on it though....... The pattern always looks like crap long range and I'm no long range genius so I just take the pro's advice on that. I'm taking the approach that the pattern is what it is. We'll get our chances regardless of a pattern being bad. Focus on the events, not the pattern. 28.7/15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I said any cold we get is transient and wasted. As for the ens...it's more of the same AK vortex through d15. Day 15? That's way out there and it's most likely going to change on the next run. We will keep getting transiet cold shots until the NAO and AO finally go negative ( whenever that happens ). The Euro and the ensembles looked fine to me in the near term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 We can only imagine what the weeklies will show Monday. All ok...joyful weekend for my family so I'm fine with whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Day 15? That's way out there and it's most likely going to change on the next run. We will keep getting transiet cold shots until the NAO and AO finally go negative ( whenever that happens ). The Euro and the ensembles looked fine to me in the near term. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Maybe..but that wasn't my intention. I'm done . I'll be here for the social aspect ..but as far as wasting/investing time in some sort of winter pattern setting up for any period of time. F that. I picked up sticks and limbs on the lawn today. May as well get it ready for spring. The one thing that has bothered me and continues to bother me is all the flocks of Canadian geese flying around..Even 2-3 days ago. They are never here in December. That was when reality set in. you know, it's funny you mention that last week, can't remember which day, I actually saw a flock of Canadian geese heading north and every year when my wife and I walk in the evenings we hear weeks go by with Canadian geese overhead in OCT; this year, we heard them only 1 night I thought it was just timing or something but maybe more to it than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 you know, it's funny you mention that last week, can't remember which day, I actually saw a flock of Canadian geese heading north and every year when my wife and I walk in the evenings we hear weeks go by with Canadian geese overhead in OCT; this year, we heard them only 1 night I thought it was just timing or something but maybe more to it than that Maybe fat squirrels are a new part of their diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The Euro ensembles are just horrific. Absolutely horrific. 15 days of no storminess.... a mild pattern... with a torch signal beyond day 15. I can't even get over how bad they look. Not even sort of bad... terribly bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The Euro ensembles are just horrific. Absolutely horrific. 15 days of no storminess.... a mild pattern... with a torch signal beyond day 15. I can't even get over how bad they look. Not even sort of bad... terribly bad. Metfan says they look fine so don't lose all hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 there are plenty of canada geese stilll hanging out here. why should they leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Metfan says they look fine so don't lose all hope. Ok, so the vortex is still there. It's still cold in the east and who cares about what happens after day 7. It's not like it will be right 7-10 days away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The Euro ensembles are just horrific. Absolutely horrific. 15 days of no storminess.... a mild pattern... with a torch signal beyond day 15. I can't even get over how bad they look. Not even sort of bad... terribly bad. I am looking at the ECM control ensemble mean run for 144hrs which shows a low pressure off the coast of NJ by about 150 miles that brings .50 precipitation into SNE.... Also this does not look bad by any means.... Also showing a low off the coast around 198 hrs (which keeps precip off the coast) and another around 240 hours..So IMHO i would not say that there is no threats in the time period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I was down in NY yesterday and the Ginko trees still holding most of their leaves..... It was festive at least walking through Bryant Park where the temporary ice rink is all up and going. I stood there for a bit and watched the zambonis working, enjoying a rare wintry scene. You know it's bad when you live 160 miles north of the city and the only wintry scene is some faux ice. you know, it's funny you mention that last week, can't remember which day, I actually saw a flock of Canadian geese heading north and every year when my wife and I walk in the evenings we hear weeks go by with Canadian geese overhead in OCT; this year, we heard them only 1 night I thought it was just timing or something but maybe more to it than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Ok, so the vortex is still there. It's still cold in the east and who cares what happens after day 7. I can care less about day 10+ because no model can predict what's going to happen that far out. There is not one thing that looks remotely good about the Euro ensembles. If you are excited about maybe getting 1 or 2 days of near normal temperatures then party on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Lot's of green grass yet last week around Hamilton and Oakville, Ontario. They can just stay in Canada. there are plenty of canada geese stilll hanging out here. why should they leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 LOL, so the euro was bad. But what did it show for 12/24? That could be our one shot at a miracle storm...white christmas...white halloween...crappy winter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QcSevereWx Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 there are plenty of canada geese stilll hanging out here. why should they leave? They like (need) to go where there is water, and the lakes here are not frozen, so they can stay here no problem since not a single lake is frozen in southern Quebec. look... http://lance-modis.e....terra.250m.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 LOL, so the euro was bad. But what did it show for 12/24? That could be our one shot at a miracle storm...white christmas...white halloween...crappy winter... I actually agree with this. If we were to Tebow a storm it would be on 12/24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I actually agree with this. If we were to Tebow a storm it would be on 12/24. What did the euro show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Meanwhile it is a serious winter day here (sans snow cover of course) with ovc skies and now down to 24 degrees. Yeah it was nice to have some winter.... it looks like I should have enjoyed this as much as possible because judging by this thread winter won't be here all that much this season. Walking into the office this morning with moderate snowfall, strong winds, and cold temps it actually felt quite wintery out there. Now its down to 12F at the office with just over 2" of new snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 What did the euro show? It was actually too flat and out to sea. The Euro ensembles are still pretty much status quo but it does have some bouts of +PNA...with climo trying to get colder with each passing week, we could try to muster something out of it. The general theme though is still going to be more warmth than cold until we see some sort of better ridging that sustains itself in the EPO region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 It was actually too flat and out to sea. The Euro ensembles are still pretty much status quo but it does have some bouts of +PNA...with climo trying to get colder with each passing week, we could try to muster something out of it. The general theme though is still going to be more warmth than cold until we see some sort of better ridging that sustains itself in the EPO region. The thing that gets me about the Euro and Euro ensembles is just how boring they are. Yeah we do get some bouts of normal (not a wall to wall torch) but there's just so little stormiess around it's ugly. Very discouraging to see the EPO troughiness return by D11-D15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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