dilly84 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 A little something to get excited about? CMH SUN 00Z 25-DEC 3.2 -1.2 1013 97 72 0.26 547 536 MFD SUN 00Z 25-DEC 2.4 -1.0 1012 98 93 0.29 547 538 SUN 06Z 25-DEC 0.3 -3.6 1016 96 36 0.05 548 536 SUN 12Z 25-DEC 0.1 -3.3 1017 93 29 0.01 547 534 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 ECMWF cmh SUN 12Z 25-DEC 0.8 -2.7 1022 74 97 0.01 553 535 SUN 18Z 25-DEC 1.3 -3.7 1018 91 96 0.16 546 532 Ehh not much for cmh but a little hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Cancel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 25, 2011 Author Share Posted December 25, 2011 Local mets here saying maybe some accumalating snows tuesday..Would be nice to see..Even if it melts 2 days later!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespasian70 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Perhaps it's a late xmas gift for all us snow starved Ohians? We shall see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 http://coolwx.com/cgi-bin/getbufr.cgi?region=OH&stn=KCMH&model=nam&time=current&field=prec...I would gladly take the NAM!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 There is a thread for this system you know.. Prob better off the moar Ohio posters stick to their own threads the better tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Swing and a miss! Wow what crap this winter has been to this point. Guess look to the 3rd or 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 lol dilly. Never did make it to freezing, just a sloppy .1-2 and now it is melting away as the temp is still above freezing. The faster this month dies the better. It's a heatwave. Worst start to a so-called winter I have ever seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What a fail...nothing more than moderate snow at 37 degrees for like 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcmh81 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Well, after this miserable December, I was just curious as to the winter trends for the past 130 or so years. There's so much talk about global warming and how winters overall are getting warmer, I wanted to see how things have changed, if at all, for Columbus. First, I looked at full-year means by decade. Here were those results: 2000s: 53.5 1990s: 53.4 1980s: 51.9 1970s:51.0 1960s: 51.0 1950s:52.7 1940s: 53.4 1930s: 54.0 1920s: 52.3 1910s: 52.0 1900s: 52.0 1890s: 52.6 1880s: 52.1 So looking at this, the 2000s were the 2nd warmest decade, but the 1930s remain #1. Let's break it down into longer-term trends. 20-year 1880s-1890s: 52.4 1890s-1900s: 52.3 1900s-1910s: 52.0 1910s-1920s: 52.2 1920s-1930s: 53.2 1930s-1940s: 53.7 1940s-1950s: 53.1 1950s-1960s: 51.9 1960s-1970s: 51.0 1970s-1980s: 51.5 1980s-1990s; 52.7 1990s-2000s: 53.5 30-year (which is where we get our normals) 1880s-1900s: 52.2 1890s-1910s: 52.2 1900s-1920s: 52.1 1910s-1930s: 52.8 1920s-1940s: 53.2 1930s-1950s: 53.4 1940s-1960s: 52.4 1950s-1970s: 51.6 1960s-1980s: 51.3 1970s-1990s: 52.1 1980s-2000s: 52.9 And finallly, the 50-year trend: 1880s-1920s: 52.2 1890s-1930s: 52.6 1900s-1940s: 52.7 1910s-1950s: 52.9 1920s-1960s: 52.7 1930s-1970s: 52.4 1940s-1980s: 52.0 1950s-1990s: 52.0 1960s-2000s: 52.2 So, has the overall yearl mean warmed? By none of the measurements was the most recent decade the warmest on the records. It seems that the shorter the time frame you use, the warmer things look overall. Also, most of our current measurements of normal include some of the coolest years in the entire 130+ year period, so it does tend to skew things warmer than they might otherwise look. The question will be, what happens in the upcoming few decades when those drop off. So what about winter, the all important season of which we most measure temps by... First, by decade: 2000s: 31.3 1990s: 33.0 1980s: 30.3 1970s: 28.9 1960s: 28.0 1950s: 32.4 1940s: 32.3 1930s: 32.9 1920s: 32.0 1910s: 29.7 1900s: 29.2 1890s: 30.7 1880s: 31.3 The 2000s were merely 6th warmest and had a healthy drop from the 1990s. 20-year 1880s-1890s: 31.0 1890s-1900s: 30.0 1900s-1910s: 29.5 1910s-1920s: 30.9 1920s-1930s: 32.5 1930s-1940s: 32.6 1940s-1950s: 32.4 1950s-1960s: 30.2 1960s-1970s: 28.5 1970s-1980s: 29.6 1980s-1990s: 31.7 1990s-2000s: 32.2 30-year 1880s-1900s: 30.4 1890s-1910s: 29.9 1900s-1920s: 30.3 1910s-1930s: 31.5 1920s-1940s: 32.4 1930s-1950s: 32.5 1940s-1960s: 30.9 1950s-1970s: 29.8 1960s-1980s: 29.1 1970s-1990s: 30.7 1980s-2000s: 31.5 50-year 1880s-1920s: 30.6 1890s-1930s: 30.9 1900s-1940s: 31.2 1910s-1950s: 31.9 1920s-1960s: 31.5 1930s-1970s: 30.9 1940s-1980s: 30.4 1950s-1990s: 30.5 1960s-2000s: 30.3 Similar to overall yearly means, winter seem to depend on what time frame you look at. The most recent 50-year is the coolest of the bunch. There seems to be no clear linear local warming in either yearly or winter means, and if anything the most recent periods are a bit cooler than they were in the ones previous. If anything, there seems to be a general seesawing over the decades, which to me implies more natural variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcmh81 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 So what about snowfall trends? Average snowfall by decade: 2000s: 29.1 1990s: 26.6 1980s: 26.1 1970s: 28.3 1960s: 33.3 1950s: 26.7 1940s: 14.9 1930s: 18.4 1920s: 18.2 1910s: 30.9 1900s: 30.4 1890s: 26.4 1880s: 31.5 20-year 1880s-1890s: 29.0 1890s-1900s: 28.4 1900s-1910s: 30.7 1910s-1920s: 24.6 1920s-1930s: 18.3 1930s-1940s: 16.7 1940s-1950s: 20.8 1950s-1960s: 30.0 1960s-1970s: 30.8 1970s-1980s: 27.2 1980s-1990s: 26.4 1990s-2000s: 27.9 30-year 1880s-1900s: 29.4 1890s-1910s: 29.2 1900s-1920s: 26.5 1910s-1930s: 22.5 1920s-1940s: 17.2 1930s-1950s: 20.0 1940s-1960s: 25.0 1950s-1970s: 29.4 1960s-1980s: 29.2 1970s-1990s: 27.0 1980s-2000s: 27.3 50-year 1880s-1920s: 27.5 1890s-1930s: 24.9 1900s-1940s: 22.6 1910s-1950s: 21.8 1920s-1960s: 22.3 1930s-1970s: 24.3 1940s-1980s: 25.9 1950s-1990s: 28.2 1960s-2000s: 28.7 So in terms of snowfall, we are actually close to the top of the snowiest periods, or at least nowhere near the worst. So if anything, winters have actually gotten better overall than worse in the most recent time periods. If you look at the 50-year time frame, the one ending the last decade was the coldest and snowiest on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 great stats and very interesting results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Yeah JB, I graphed CMH snow trends in Excel since late 1800s and it is actually a positive trend line. Of course that's not taking this year into account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcmh81 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Yeah JB, I graphed CMH snow trends in Excel since late 1800s and it is actually a positive trend line. Of course that's not taking this year into account Yeah, I'm glad I called for basically normal snowfall this year, if not a bit below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Yeah, I'm glad I called for basically normal snowfall this year, if not a bit below. I had normal to very slightly above...So here's to a rockin' 2nd half of Jan into Feb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcmh81 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I had normal to very slightly above...So here's to a rockin' 2nd half of Jan into Feb! Look at it this way... January 2002 was better than December 2001 in terms of snowfall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Look at it this way... January 2002 was better than December 2001 in terms of snowfall... Oh gosh, I hope we're not in for a repeat of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 Well guys..we going to get a bit of snow this time..or left out again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Well guys..we going to get a bit of snow this time..or left out again? here ya go buddy lol aside, I noticed both the nam and the gfs are looking more juicy for eastern parts of OH.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGreens Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 ILN has just about the entire Columbus area at 1-3" so I am looking forward to the possibility of dusting off the shovel for the first time this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbcmh81 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Eh, I'm just about ready to call this winter done. The cold is just not going to stick around long enough, and it looks to get very warm again after this week. Unless February is some super winter extreme, this is looking worse than a combo of any of the lamest winters of the last 10-15 years. I guess it was inevitable after 3 straight cold winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 My latest snowmap for later today. Should be a solid couple inches at least http://www.examiner.com/weather-in-columbus/another-round-of-accumulating-snow-and-wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 ILN hazard weather outlook: SNOW SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED TO OCCUR THROUGH MOST OF FRIDAY BEFORE TAPERING TO FLURRIES AND ENDING FRIDAY NIGHT. TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE ALONG AND NORTH OF THE I-70 CORRIDOR. 1 TO 2 INCHES CAN BE EXPECTED ALONG THE OHIO RIVER. Yet the counties that would fall in that 2-4" zone across central ohio are the only ones they didnt issue an advisory for? I guess they figure we've have so much winter weather this season that a piddly 2-4" event with 40mph wind gusts doesn't warrant one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 ILN hazard weather outlook: SNOW SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED TO OCCUR THROUGH MOST OF FRIDAY BEFORE TAPERING TO FLURRIES AND ENDING FRIDAY NIGHT. TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE ALONG AND NORTH OF THE I-70 CORRIDOR. 1 TO 2 INCHES CAN BE EXPECTED ALONG THE OHIO RIVER. Yet the counties that would fall in that 2-4" zone across central ohio are the only ones they didnt issue an advisory for? I guess they figure we've have so much winter weather this season that a piddly 2-4" event with 40mph wind gusts doesn't warrant one. I think the minimum is 4 inches so they probably figure the 4 areas won't be widespread enough? If you ask me, the high impact warrants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 I am just ready for snow..i will take an inch..anything over will be a surprise..The way this winter has gone!! Or lack there of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGreens Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Just had about 20 minutes of huge wet sloppy flakes here...enough to whiten everything quickly. Most of that due to the rate. Now slowly melting and as I look up I see clearling skies. Fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Ehh, I wouldn't get too down just yet. It appears as though the southern edge of the deform snow will clip northern portions of ILN's CWA late tonight into Friday morning...in addition, steep low level lapse rates and a moist boundary lower will contribute to numerous snow squalls tomorrow across all of ILN's CWA...I'd go around an inch for Cinci and 1-2" for the Dayton and Columbus metros...locally 3"+ towards the northern reaches of ILN's CWA. Given the freezeup potential this evening and potential blowing snow reducing visibilities and keeping roads slick at times into Friday, I agree with the advisory ILN put out. Still plenty of moisture on the other side of the dry slot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 here ya go buddy lol aside, I noticed both the nam and the gfs are looking more juicy for eastern parts of OH.... Gives me 4 inches in Licking county, doubt it will snow that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 OHweather, I agree. I'm glad they filled in the gap since it was surrounded by advisories lol. Plus the impact warrants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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