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Central PA Thread - Met. Winter 11-12 Obs/Disco


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I will tell you, I'm usually a NAM guy from this range, but I believe the GFS/Euro/SREFs have it right this time based on just the setup at the surface. It is a huge red flag to me when a primary low is that strong going through Ohio. These transitions to secondary lows almost always seem to take longer than expected and this primary is forecast to be stronger than most in this situation (996mb-1000mb). That should keep a decent amount of warm air pumping in and give us mainly rain.

Plus, it's the winter of 2011-12, which is almost an argument against it just by itself... :lol:

Yea and the track of the 850 low really kills this too, staying west of the area and keeping things warm aloft rather than getting a strong redevelopment on the coast and collapsing the column.

This post frontal wave is interesting, all the 12z models have it and the European really has it. It would probably be a high end advisory event over alot of the area on the Euro.

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Yea and the track of the 850 low really kills this too, staying west of the area and keeping things warm aloft rather than getting a strong redevelopment on the coast and collapsing the column.

This post frontal wave is interesting, all the 12z models have it and the European really has it. It would probably be a high end advisory event over alot of the area on the Euro.

I'm on the Thursday night/Friday snow train.

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People are talking about a pattern change to cold and snow.. I don't see it.

This futility has got to end at some point. Even the worst recent winter of 01-02 threw a bone January 6th in the form of a hard hitting C-PA nor'easter that was used in one of my Dynamic Meteo class lectures as a classic example of CSI banding over UNV. I also remember about 2 days later that the 10-12 inches of snow that fell dissappeared overnight on a raging wind and temps in the 40s. But the moral of the story is that even in a terrible winter chances are that your going to get a decent storm eventually, even if thats all she wrote for the winter. But its def becoming clear that things are going to be changing especially as we head toward the end of the month with strat warming, dive in the AO, SOI falling, etc.

AO

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Also, check out the MJO

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While it generally stays within the circle, it's making that classic phase 7,8,1 run.. which is a good sign for potential storms. Getting into February is certainly starting to look good on paper, but whether or not it'll deliver is anyones guess. And i hate crapping away over half the winter waiting for things to set up to make a run, but I do like how things are looking..even as we continue to get trolled on current storms.

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This futility has got to end at some point. Even the worst recent winter of 01-02 threw a bone January 6th in the form of a hard hitting C-PA nor'easter that was used in one of my Dynamic Meteo class lectures as a classic example of CSI banding over UNV. I also remember about 2 days later that the 10-12 inches of snow that fell dissappeared overnight on a raging wind and temps in the 40s. But the moral of the story is that even in a terrible winter chances are that your going to get a decent storm eventually, even if thats all she wrote for the winter. But its def becoming clear that things are going to be changing especially as we head toward the end of the month with strat warming, dive in the AO, SOI falling, etc.

AO

post-1507-0-87030400-1326229912.gif

Also, check out the MJO

post-1507-0-78849300-1326229955.gif

While it generally stays within the circle, it's making that classic phase 7,8,1 run.. which is a good sign for potential storms. Getting into February is certainly starting to look good on paper, but whether or not it'll deliver is anyones guess. And i hate crapping away over half the winter waiting for things to set up to make a run, but I do like how things are looking..even as we continue to get trolled on current storms.

Ya I think we get one storm that delivers in Feb. Probably around mid month.

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Winds continue to get stronger each run as the low continue to be stronger on each run. It might be pretty bad Thursday night into Friday night. Snow squalls, wind Gust to 55, and wind chills around 0 or lower.

Ugh...thank God I'll be down south running from Atlanta to Texas.

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You watch it be a cold and rainy summer.

Yes PLEASE! I hate heat with the passion. I would love to live in England, but not enough snow to quite lure me. They have the perfect summers.

I was thinking the same thing...

I couldn't find it but I saw mentioned that the early analogs point to a hot and dry summer

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