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Thursday Wintry Threat II


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Or worse--green grass!

When I do p/c on nearby towns like Savoy, Cummington, Charlemont, Colrain and repeatedly see 3-5", I see a lot of consistency there with the zfp. Regardless, seasonal total growth is a good thing.

Have to head to a meeting in Worcester today, but will have lunch afterward at the Sole with a retired co-worker. Hope to get a couple glimpses of the models/comments here during the day.

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The p/c seems to have snowfall adjusted to elevation. West Chesterfield at 1000' shows 3-7" while Worthington at 1300' shows 4-8". I use the Worthington p/c forecast as I'm right on the town line and it reflects my elevation better. Just hope we get some white and the seasonal tally goes up.

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The p/c seems to have snowfall adjusted to elevation. West Chesterfield at 1000' shows 3-7" while Worthington at 1300' shows 4-8". I use the Worthington p/c forecast as I'm right on the town line and it reflects my elevation better. Just hope we get some white and the seasonal tally goes up.

Down by me it seems to be longitudinal. If I click on my place (at 650') I have 1-2" but if I click on the town just east of me at 1,200' it only have rain listed...no mention of snow. Bizarre.

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Even the GFS flips Boston for an hour or so.

What you guys want, is for this thing to go bonkers for a couple of hours. If the lift isn't there or its located further nw..forget it. But if it can go nuts for like 2 hours...a few inches is possible. Best chance is likely nrn ORH county and western mass.

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We didnt have any for that one either.

What do you think for me and Will? 1-2?

We actually had a block in that one. That's what helped that out. Same with last year.

Yeah I would think an inch or two is a safe bet for now. If it's further nw, than maybe a coating. You have to hope it all comes together for a 2-3hr period. It could really rip in some areas for an hour or two which could make the difference between an inch and 4" for someone.

The problem with this storm is that it is flying ne. You may only have an hour or two of snow. This progressive nature will limit snow amounts.

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The p/c seems to have snowfall adjusted to elevation. West Chesterfield at 1000' shows 3-7" while Worthington at 1300' shows 4-8". I use the Worthington p/c forecast as I'm right on the town line and it reflects my elevation better. Just hope we get some white and the seasonal tally goes up.

Yet, Savoy at 1900' has 3-5". Regardless, I think it will be just as BOX describes: light to perhaps moderate event.

Everything went right in that storm. Seemingly everything is going wrong with this one. :lol:

LOL

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Will was telling me that last night, but I don't really care....it will be gone in a blink, anyway.

exactly. I dont see the point to a few inches of snow that will be gone in a day or 2. The ground

is just too warm. We need the cold to lock things up but that's not going to happen. May not happen

at all the way this winter is going.

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I refuse to believe my forecast right now..little to no snow..?What about tomorrow early morning as the low deepens and pulls into the GOM, dragging the front through? I can see at least 3 hours of heavy snow in there. Also, you gotta love the forecast for the Taunton and Gray for adjoining areas in NH right now.

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WWA up for all of Franklin Co. Based on the models and discussions I feel fortunate that I'll at least have measurable snow on the ground at this time tomorrow. With the warmth that's been present the last few days I'll take any snow and run with it. lol

I imagine it will be mostly those of us W. of the Ct River posting in the obs thread tomorrow...

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I refuse to believe my forecast right now..little to no snow..?What about tomorrow early morning as the low deepens and pulls into the GOM, dragging the front through? I can see at least 3 hours of heavy snow in there. Also, you gotta love the forecast for the Taunton and Gray for adjoining areas in NH right now.

Definitely a bad trend for us. lol I'm keeping my eyes on it, of course, but I'm accepting my fate of a nice cold rain with some slop to end it. Anything measureable will be a bonus. At least the mountains get hit, which does nothing for mby but it'll be good for the resorts to get their season moving along.

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Definitely a bad trend for us. lol I'm keeping my eyes on it, of course, but I'm accepting my fate of a nice cold rain with some slop to end it. Anything measureable will be a bonus. At least the mountains get hit, which does nothing for mby but it'll be good for the resorts to get their season moving along.

I refuse to accept that! I was really impressed with the models this run showing the backside coming through. I can see the snow crashing down with heavy precip much sooner than they think.

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I'm glad it went nuts....I was all set with Pete getting another 2' while I rained.

Relentless.

You just don't live in the right spot...Miami Beach North (Boston) doesn't get a lot of snow in December. Need to move to the New England Rockies where the air is clean and cold and the snow neck deep year 'round. Be interesting to see if the 12z runs bring you some snow on the backside...I know it's riveting to you but would still be interesting.

Well--thinks looked so much better 24 hours ago. Congrats all you jackpot winners!

So, ultimately which model appears to have led the way? The NAM/Ukie combo?

Alas. This will be the one storm where Messenger won't incessently be making posts like "the last two runs of the hrrr and the RUC are showing this convection running interference. This is forcing the system to redevelop further east....." which have me paniced about my qpf.

46.9/46

I can tell you what didn't lead the way - blindly saying it was going to snow like has worked for the last two winters.

Enjoy the torrential windswept rains that change to a potentially disappointing backside snow. We'll see if the 12z corrects.

And, while probably my weenie eyes are deceiving me, the 06 GFS may have ticked a TINY bit SE of the 00z.

46.5/46

So I guess it's really the MPM SE trend this year?

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You just don't live in the right spot...Miami Beach North (Boston) doesn't get a lot of snow in December. Need to move to the New England Rockies where the air is clean and cold and the snow neck deep year 'round. Be interesting to see if the 12z runs bring you some snow on the backside...I know it's riveting to you but would still be interesting.

There just aint no way your gonna get a guy like me or ray to move away from civilization and proximity to boston sports...

unless forcibly (me)

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GFS and NAm BUFKIT profiles aren't very encouraging for ORH. It is unstable in the SG layer, but the column starts to try out at the same time lift picks up. It's gonna be a race.

NAM BUFKIT suggests maybe a 60-80 min period where it could flash over to steady snow in BOS.

sounds similar to here, i wonder who gets more

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