skierinvermont Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'm pretty sure he had me confused with you... Its more a semantics issue too, because I was more implying that a NW trend far enough to really hit NNE (Central/Northern Greens, Whites, up towards Rangley) seemed very unlikely and still does. It has shifted NW though to western SNE and central New England's delight. Not enough for me, but just enough to botch it for the coastal plain. I take it you are not buying the Euro? Isn't the Euro like 4-8 for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Man 9 out of 10 times this is an orgasmic looking H5 plot for most of New England. But not when the air over us is 60 prior to the storm arriving. Ski country should get into the act. NAM is warmer at the same time as the 0z but some of that is it's faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Yea, well.....modelology dictated that this would not tuck inland....meterology implied that it very well may. Yeah this has gone a bit NW but still not to the extent I thought you guys were implying... this is still a non-event for a large chunk of NNE from central/northern VT northeastward through the Presidentials/Whites and ME mountains. Basically draw a line from Rutland, VT to Caribou, ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 This is when i hate being in the valley.. looks great west of here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Eh' despite being in the lower el. of GC I like my N of Rt 2, W of I-91 locale for at least 1-3" of slop. At least it will look more like Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 New NAM looks like the track is the same as 06z, but maybe a little stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 On the NAM, right as the cold air comes in...the precip is exiting stage right. Maybe the Berks can pick up something. More likely eastern NY into VT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 alright np.. I was just reading through last night's posts and that seemed totally out of the blue (then Will and OSU jump on too lol).. I've hardly even been posting.. I get just enough wifi to check the models Things have been tense for some reason between some of the SNE regulars and NNE... pattern is getting to everyone, lol. I don't think I've ever seen Will and Kev like this before and its only December 6th. And I just don't think this is as far NW as the ECM... I've rehashed it over and over this morning and will go down in flames with it. I think this ends up a snowstorm for the Catskills of NY, into the Berkshires, Monadnocks, Lakes Region of NH and maybe the ME coastal plain if they cool enough. To me, that is not a NNE event like some were implying. Heaviest snow still looks to fall in SNE in the Pete, MPM, and Wxmanmitch area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 The banding signal on the nw periphery is really strong. Someone is going to get pelted with S+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I know. Even Kevin still flips to maybe brief S+. The NAM looks like all rain to me for most of us save GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 NAM has some hvy hvy rain. congrats most of us. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I know. Even Kevin still flips to maybe brief S+. Isothermal snow bomb for the Berks then translated to Will, power issues again for those areas it appears as that is pure paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 man...congrats NW MA At work Phil. What are you looking at? What do you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I think i see a few inches here gc looks to get buried again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Things have been tense for some reason between some of the SNE regulars and NNE... pattern is getting to everyone, lol. I don't think I've ever seen Will and Kev like this before and its only December 6th. And I just don't think this is as far NW as the ECM... I've rehashed it over and over this morning and will go down in flames with it. I think this ends up a snowstorm for the Catskills of NY, into the Berkshires, Monadnocks, Lakes Region of NH and maybe the ME coastal plain if they cool enough. To me, that is not a NNE event like some were implying. Heaviest snow still looks to fall in SNE in the Pete, MPM, and Wxmanmitch area. honestly, i don't have a clue in VT where you are. for some reason i always assumed S VT because you post in these threads. so i might toss your name out there...doesn't imply YBY i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 The NAM looks like all rain to me for most of us save GC I agree. Best case scenario for you is perhaps a quick flip to S before it shuts off rapidly from SW to NE. Expecting all rain here. At least I won't have to deal with gridlock on 95 at 7AM. (well, additional gridlock from snow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Isothermal snow bomb for the Berks then translated to Will, power issues again for those areas it appears as that is pure paste. Will gets an hour of snow around 12z, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Isothermal snow bomb for the Berks then translated to Will, power issues again for those areas it appears as that is pure paste. thats going to be a big problem theres still alot of broken branches in the trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 The NAM looks like all rain to me for most of us save GC It's not all rain for you taken verbatim, you'd get something for an hour or so at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 What a waste of a good shortwave. This could have been a 6-9hr nuke for a lot of SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 It's not all rain for you taken verbatim, you'd get something for an hour or so at the end. I'm not sure the NW trend is done which would put a lot of eastern areas in the DS as it rockets NE while trying to cool. Next. For most of SNE itself this is not exciting unless you like dynamic rains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Things have been tense for some reason between some of the SNE regulars and NNE... pattern is getting to everyone, lol. I don't think I've ever seen Will and Kev like this before and its only December 6th. And I just don't think this is as far NW as the ECM... I've rehashed it over and over this morning and will go down in flames with it. I think this ends up a snowstorm for the Catskills of NY, into the Berkshires, Monadnocks, Lakes Region of NH and maybe the ME coastal plain if they cool enough. To me, that is not a NNE event like some were implying. Heaviest snow still looks to fall in SNE in the Pete, MPM, and Wxmanmitch area. I haven't been into it with anyone lately. I was in Buffalo all weekend and didn't even post. I can sense when things are going wrong..and i sensed it last night when I saw the 18z GEFS so amped. I even made a post about it. Most of SNE is not going to see any snow out of this at all. You will be shovelling a foot or more of snow. The Euro is going to take this over PYM this afternoon. I'm not complaining or trying to start any trouble. If you recall I was down on this winter back in Nov and people talked me off the cliff. People told me ..Kev don't worry it's only Nov.. Dec will look much better..Kev it's only NOv 15th I'm glad we're gettig this pattern out of the way now and not a month from now. My response initially was what will you say when we're still in the same pattern in mid Dec.. Guess what we are. It is what it is. I think Will is sensing it too. We've lost 1 full month of winter and very possibly much more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 It's not all rain for you taken verbatim, you'd get something for an hour or so at the end. Probably enough to whiten the grass, cover car tops, that sort of thing. It'll melt by 3pm though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 It's not all rain for you taken verbatim, you'd get something for an hour or so at the end. No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Meltdown thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 NAM has quite the comma head over ern mass at 12z. Man if this even had a decent antecedent airmass..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I don't think I've ever seen Will and Kev like this before and its only December 6th. Well the winters seem to get shorter and shorter every year, so there is a sense of the clock ticking. I'm reminded of Marisa Tomei's clock ticking in My Cousin Vinny. December's looking more and more like a lost cause for most of us. If we could actually have a good February and March, perhaps having a clunker of a December wouldn't be so hard to take, but it seems after Valentine's Day things come to a screeching halt. I know we're just in a streak of second half slumps and eventually it'll average out, but recent memories are always the freshest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I don't know PF.. the position of the stalled front and the warm antecedent air and the fact that the ensembles are as far or farther NW than the op and the way the models have been trending all imply to me this could potentially end up like the Euro op or even a hair NW of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I haven't been into it with anyone lately. I was in Buffalo all weekend and didn't even post. I can sense when things are going wrong..and i sensed it last night when I saw the 18z GEFS so amped. I even made a post about it. Most of SNE is not going to see any snow out of this at all. You will be shovelling a foot or more of snow. The Euro is going to take this over PYM this afternoon. I'm not complaining or trying to start any trouble. If you recall I was down on this winter back in Nov and people talked me off the cliff. People told me ..Kev don't worry it's only Nov.. Dec will look much better..Kev it's only NOv 15th I'm glad we're gettig this pattern out of the way now and not a month from now. My response initially was what will you say when we're still in the same pattern in mid Dec.. Guess what we are. It is what it is. I think Will is sensing it too. We've lost 1 full month of winter and very possibly much more Violently agree. We're due for a dead ratter. However, another 75 miles SE and we'd be all singing a different tune. At least powderfreak could actually make use of the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Scott, what do you think for here?? Gonna be really close I think. I'm much more optimistic than the swfe cause this will be changing to snow and not the other way around.. starting to get pretty damn excited I love how storm scoots east too at the end instead of NE.. kinda like 10/29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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