ravensrule Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Well, go to 8" Feb 22 Jan 18 Dec 9 Mar 7 Nov 1 I'll give you it's muddled at 10" but one big problem once you get to that level is how few storms there are. I don't think you can really go past that and get anything of use. A 2' snowstorm is not likely at any time so you can look at them as flukes no matter when they happen. Perhaps the only thing you can take away about Dec is a big Dec storm, while more unusual, may have a tendency to go for a home run compared to other months -- at least IMO. But the IAD records are less than half as long as BWI/DCA so gathering much from them is difficult. Ok fine you win . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I'm not sure if it's accurate, but at 10 AM the temperature at Dolly Sods was 69 according to their site. It hasn't updated since then, but looking at the weenie radar, the changeover to snow for them is not far away. It would be pretty cool to go from nearly 70 to snow in about 2 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Intellicast weenie radar looks like the euro from last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I don't think I've seen my station quite so flat temperature wise. 55.6 plus or minus a tenth of a degree since 9:15am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethesdaWX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I don't think I've seen my station quite so flat temperature wise. 55.6 plus or minus a tenth of a degree since 9:15am. I've been exactly 55.6 for almost 2 hours also, cut-off not too far west I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo2 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Been sitting at 53.1 for a bit now as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I just came across a great link, which fills out the picture for Baltimore: http://www.erh.noaa....#TopDaySnowfall Note that the Baltimore top ten is: December, 1; January, 2; February 6; March, 1. A string of snowy Aprils in Balto 1915-1917. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 No reports the past couple of hours from Oakland or Cumberland, which are usually good sites for tracking the rain-snow line in these events. Johnstown, PA flipped to snow in the past hour. Temp dropped from 36 to 33. But Altoona is still 43 with rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo2 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Morgantown is down to 35-36...still most of the mts in the davis to snowshoe area are in the 38ish area. It's very close to changing over there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCS Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 No reports the past couple of hours from Oakland or Cumberland, which are usually good sites for tracking the rain-snow line in these events. Johnstown, PA flipped to snow in the past hour. Temp dropped from 36 to 33. But Altoona is still 43 with rain. http://www.wispresort.com/wisp/info/w.webcam.aspx Will be fun watching this over the next few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo2 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Looks like the dolly sods cam is working, but the temps, etc are not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snownut Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Webcam in PA looking good there: http://www.paccsa.org/webcam.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjon Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Snowing here in Oakland, MD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreWxGuy Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 We had this whole discussion yesterday already, he is a great guy and an excellent meteorologist so let's lay off criticizing him. True. But hes also a weenie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snownut Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Snowing here in Oakland, MD. what temp did it change over? guessing 34ish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I'm thinking about looking at the RUC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I'm thinking about looking at the RUC so the Euro didn't impress you, ehh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 so the Euro didn't impress you, ehh? looks like 8-12" on the backend ...or about how it has looked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biodhokie Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Sitting in my office at the WVU campus, we just changed over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 looks like 8-12" on the backend ...or about how it has looked... the 24 hr map on Plymouth shows maybe a little snow in NE Maine that thing really speeds up once by us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Snowing at wisp: http://www.wispresort.com/wisp/info/w.webcam.aspx ULL is about to make its turn north. Not impressive yet but it kinda looks like it's going to connect with the precip out in front in a few hours. It will be interesting to see how much juice and energy it has once it gets into central to eastern NC. Around 6pm or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 that trough in Canada is really pushing its way south fast http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/PCPN/DATA/RT/na-wv-loop.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Had to make some big changes in the northern areas… the boundary layer temperatures did not cool off as much as I thought it would on the models in addition to a quicker end to the snowfall. I think that a couple of areas will be able to top out just above 8 inches in the mountains, so I left a small area over some of the WV/MD pandhandles. Snowfall totals should not get hurt too much after the transition to snow finally occurs as a small period of sleet during the transition could/should provide a decent base layer for the snow to accumulate on. Keep eyes and ears peeled for the possible thundersleet/thundersnow during the transition from rain, especially from the northern VA/DC region up through central PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 the 24 hr map on Plymouth shows maybe a little snow in NE Maine that thing really speeds up once by us it looks like it's a bit faster on the whole than 0z--i think that's been the trend all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjon Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 what temp did it change over? guessing 34ish? Not sure, don't have a thermometer here at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 it looks like it's a bit faster on the whole than 0z--i think that's been the trend all along. It looks a tad better to me, but that doesnt really change anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Keep eyes and ears peeled for the possible thundersleet/thundersnow during the transition from rain, especially from the northern VA/DC region up through central PA. I'm glad you brought this up because I was wondering about it. Pretty good clash of airmasses along with a semi potent ull. That combination always makes things interesting even if it isn't going to snow much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 It looks a tad better to me, but that doesnt really change anything actually it does look faster...whatever...who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUweathermanDD Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 It looks a tad better to me, but that doesnt really change anything Yeah a little better than 0z, maybe help us a bit with the snow, nothing to write home about though, and yeah it's faster in general, looks about the same as per it getting to our neck of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 It looks a tad better to me, but that doesnt really change anything how so? the 0c 850 might be light 5 miles to the east at 0z.. there's a bit more precip in that panel but the next one has less precip and almost no change from 0z. 0c line slightly left -4c slightly right. the maps i have don't really tell a huge story though. but overall it looks basically the same to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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