Ian Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 if this does happen, it just shows, that those indexes are mute if you have the thread the needle type track, shows you can get snow in a warm looking pattern. fololz submission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 fololz submission Nice catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdude Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 12z shows the more classic La Nina track, Snow far to the west. Appalachian, western/central PA hit and into New England. Something to watch for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 12z gfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 12z shows the more classic La Nina track, Snow far to the west. Appalachian, western/central PA hit and into New England. Something to watch for sure. hey, a coastal 4 days out in any year and I'll take my chances but the reality is, this would need the quintessential perfect track to give IAD/DCA/BWI mainly snow in early DEC...in a NINA...with a general cr@ppy NH pattern but that's what we live for, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 12z gfs really??? it wasn't that obvious to any of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 its worth keeping an eye on.....a slight shift south would put us back into the snow. Its all we have for Dec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 the important thing is that Boston gets nailed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Congrats PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethesdaWX Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 hot n wet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 the important thing is that Boston gets nailed Not really...its too warm...it would mostly be west of Worcester that's all snow. BOS is all rain taken verbatim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 12z shows the more classic La Nina track, Snow far to the west. Appalachian, western/central PA hit and into New England. Something to watch for sure. This group likes to torture itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 This group likes to torture itself Well they are the eternal optimists. That gives me an idea for off an off topic type poll, who in each forum is the most optimistic poster on snow and the least and which is the most ac-dc when it comes to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Congrats PA Time to go back to York Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Time to go back to York But who knows what the next run will offer. The models ahve been all over the place with this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 But who knows what the next run will offer. The models ahve been all over the place with this storm. Yeah, apparently 6z gave me ~10". I'll be happy just to see flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 I think Wes has to write something now for cwg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 06Z GFS gave me 6-8" of snow. 12Z GFS gave me 6-8" of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Not overly excited about the threat. Major indices aren't cooperating at all but I know that doesn't mean it "can't" snow. Unless I'm missing something, I'm not seeing a decent hp to the nw in se canada or ny to help with the thermal profile. 6z @114 shows a 1019 in se canada and a 1017 over ne. I think that implies a low level ne flow and ocean influence isn't gonna help with temps. I didn't take a serious look or anything so I could be out to lunch but what I saw didn't excite me too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I think Wes has to write something now for cwg Maybe tomorrow as I haven't heard anything from Jason but by then, who knows, the threat may be gone. The 12Z GFS isn't a good run for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlYourWxPal Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 But who knows what the next run will offer. The models ahve been all over the place with this storm. Exactly...I went on air this morning and didn't talk about it too much since there is so much uncertainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I'd love to delay this until Christmas. Not really liking the placement of that high to the west of the storm,, just seems too far away to provide any colder air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 12z euro is faster this run and then out to sea precip makes it to dc hr 90 0c from ric to sby hr 96 ric -2c on the edge of 0.50" in 6 hours dc~ 0.10" for the same 6 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaWx Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Gladly take the euro this far out. If we can get the 12z gfs and euro to come to a middle ground, we get the 6z solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Gladly take the euro this far out. If we can get the 12z gfs and euro to come to a middle ground, we get the 6z solution. in past years, it was the GFS that was suppressed, not the Euro not sure what to make of it now except there is a threat of seeing some snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 JMA looks to have something brewing, but it puts it at days 5-6 (basically 24 hrs behind GFS/Euro) not certain if it's rain or snow based on maps I'm seeing here's a link; you need to change the parameters on left http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=namk&MODELL=jma&MODELLTYP=1&BASE=jma&VAR=pslv&HH=120&ARCHIV=0&ZOOM=0&PERIOD=&WMO= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 Great run....tons of qpf just south of us per euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Congrats PA Of course I JUST moved to Maryland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Of course I JUST moved to Maryland. You should get used to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Seems to be pretty good concensus on the GFS ens. and with the EC coming around to the idea of a storm, I'm feeling a little tingle about this one. Might get shot down later, but I think I'll choose to continue to be hopeful. Wasn't it just a few days ago that the models were telling us that next weekend was going to be warm? Doesn't look like that's gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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