TalcottWx Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 The 0z GFS wasn't bad, however the 06z was uglier. The EURO wasn't exactly pretty either. Same old story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Jerry they are huge. They have ballz too. Maybe they are just street tough city squirrels, but I walked up to one yesterday and he just stood up and looked at me....as if to say "What!" Isn't it weird? They have these little fingers going at something to eat and looking you as if to say.."who you lookin' at sucka" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 What "event"? exactly........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Jerry..hate to say it but this looks like a mild winter..I know when I see a clunker,been around too long.So I'm in a take what you can get mode and not expecting much..maybe we can get a few good weeks..my expectations are low..and really can't complain..we have had quite a decade of great winters..we were due Well, what more can you really ask for? That is pretty normal after all mixed in with warm periods...Anyhow, I think it is imprudent to call off this entire winter right now. I respect your opinion, but I still believe there can be a sharp flip of the switch at some point in January, and that's assuming the rest of this month is completely lost (which is also jumping the gun in my opinion despite the bad signals) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokeupthisam Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 It's hard to argue with this reasoning. The only thing however that keeps sticking in me is the corpulence of the squirrels...they are enormous and eating like crazy. Maybe they think we're in Winnipeg? So that signal is not going away and speaks to a flip to furious cold and snow sometime. But yes...statistically we're a long shot for a decent winter at this point. I'm going to hold out until mid January before pulling the plug and enjoy the weather....it's the only weather I get. Jerry they are huge. They have ballz too. Maybe they are just street tough city squirrels, but I walked up to one yesterday and he just stood up and looked at me....as if to say "What!" Isn't it weird? They have these little fingers going at something to eat and looking you as if to say.."who you lookin' at sucka" Definitely have seemed alot more aggressive this year: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Times are so tough that we are resorting to the squirrels for a reason that this winter won't suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 What "event"? The one all the models had yesterday with a low cutting for the lakes but then confluence forcing either a 2ndary south of us or a SWFE. We discussed it alot yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 The one all the models had yesterday with a low cutting for the lakes but then confluence forcing either a 2ndary south of us or a SWFE. We discussed it alot yesterday It was the 18z gfs yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I'm not buying that right now, given what the Roundy model is showing, but man, if it is right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 The one all the models had yesterday with a low cutting for the lakes but then confluence forcing either a 2ndary south of us or a SWFE. We discussed it alot yesterday cutter on the ec ens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 It was the 18z gfs yesterday. And the 12z GFS, the Euro, and the GGEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Might as well laugh...it feels better than crying... Anyway...it appears there's a ton of spread so flip a coin and hope the outliers and the top are more correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Typical La Niña looking MJO pattern where it has trouble making it much past phase 5 due to cold SSTAs in the central and eastern Pacific. That convective wave just dies as it moves toward our part of the world. Not good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Typical La Niña looking MJO pattern where it has trouble making it much past phase 5 due to cold SSTAs in the central and eastern Pacific. That convective wave just dies as it moves toward our part of the world. Not good... Last year, the SSTA's were far more pronounced. Yet we DID have some good MJO waves. So I think there are other explanations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 http://www.nynjpaweather.com/2011/12/08/winter-pattern-on-the-way/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Definitely have seemed alot more aggressive this year: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 This is just brutal and unfortunately things probably aren't going to change any time soon. At least on this though the GFS would offer some sort of potential for central/northern New England if enough low-level cold could hang around but we are going to need to see some drastic changes take shape soon if we want this to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 GFS looks like it is implying the interior to start as some sort of a mix later next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 GFS looks like it is implying the interior to start as some sort of a mix later next week. What storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 GFS looks like it is implying the interior to start as some sort of a mix later next week. maybe a little ice N of the pike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 maybe a little ice N of the pike? Yeah then 55 degrees..lol. Maybe we can score something when we cool down later in the 18th to 19th or so. That may be our next shot of something. Of course...ptype TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 And the 12z GFS, the Euro, and the GGEM well I didn't see the GGEM...I wasn't disputing the likelihood of a low pressure coming out of the SW through the middle of the country...only that I didn't see anything that looked nearly as good as the 18z GFS with the confluence over New England and the weak coastal cyclogenesis that it had south of SNE. The other models didn't have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Yeah then 55 degrees..lol. Maybe we can score something when we cool down later in the 18th to 19th or so. That may be our next shot of something. Of course...ptype TBD. I truly hope next week cuts right into the motor city's backside, I really think that would help us moving towards xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I'm not buying that right now, given what the Roundy model is showing, but man, if it is right... I guess maybe in the 2nd week of January it could be right, but it's also a WAG. It also was trying to go around the horn 2-3 weeks ago, and now we are in phase 4 and going nowhere fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 i find it very interesting when going back through old PNSs...how often Tolland, CT is the highest total reported in Tolland County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 i find it very interesting when going back through old PNSs...how often Tolland, CT is the highest total reported in Tolland County. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 The cutters in this pattern aren't even real cutters lol. They aren't bringing the cold air from Canada on the backside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 The cutters in this pattern aren't even real cutters lol. They aren't bringing the cold air from Canada on the backside. That's kinda what I was saying about that last storm we had.. we had a sub 985 storm pass to our SE in December and it was 45 degrees the next day here lol.. this pattern just sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 That's kinda what I was saying about that last storm we had.. we had a sub 985 storm pass to our SE in December and it was 45 degrees the next day here lol.. this pattern just sucks This pattern sucks now. However, I think that we will probably get winter to last into March. Even '01/02 had multiple snowstorms in March (after a dead ratter of a winter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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