TheCloser24 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Bob Maxon mentions an ocean storm on Saturday that seems to becoming closer to New England with each run of the computer models. Any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Fair enough. I'm with you; Snowstorms are fascinating..snow by itself is not. I would exchange 2 months of consistent snow cover for 1 HECS, in a heartbeat. To each is own... Honestly, I don't really care either way. What gets me to the point of "meltdown" (no pun intended) is when there is nothing ...an abyss of endlessly mundaine activity. I don't actually consider this last November as being of that character (imo), because it was interesting to me to watch the cryosphere/+AO. There were subtleties about the hemisphere that were interesting to follow. As well, 7 days prior to yesterday's system there were indications for something to follow, anyways. One interval comes to mind. Not sure if you are old enough to remember this but the ZYZYGY storm of the mid 1980s. Jan 3-4 I think it was...maybe 1986. It was about as classic as Nor'easter as you can imagine. There was 20" interior eastern Mass. I had some friends out on the eastern tip of Cape Ann and I went there because I wanted to witness the ocean during that storm. That was magnificent. Not much snow fell...3" when the U/L came through the next day. Anyway, it was the interval after that storm... For 30 days it may this recent November look like the Mardi Gras - the ennui index was humming in at about at 19 on a scale of 1 to 10. 1993-1994 is one of my most favorite winters because it was constantly doing a nickle events ever 3 to 4 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 LOL...I love how you pretend your not a snow lover..you're one of the worst. Not as much as you may think, Kevin. I love a winter-like landscape for the aesthetic value, sure. But, I appreciate the power and awe of how it got there, more than the fact that it is there. My posting that sentiment was more for commiseration. I happen to be around the forum at all, because like anyone else it is nice to sense being part of community of others interested in the weather. As much as it frustrates me, though, when that community shows less interest in "weather", and more of a pre-occupation on whether it is snowing or not, I am also at times aware that for these latter ilk of individuals this must be equally as frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Not as much as you may think, Kevin. I love a winter-like landscape for the aesthetic value, sure. But, I appreciate the power and awe of how it got there, more than the fact that it is there. My posting that sentiment was more for commiseration. I happen to be around the forum at all, because like anyone else it is nice to sense being part of community of others interested in the weather. As much as it frustrates me, though, when that community shows less interesting in "weather" and more of a pre-occupation on whether it is snowing or not, I am also at times aware that for these latter ilk of individuals this must be equally as frustrating. Are you coming to the GTG in ORH on Saturday? We'd love to have you join us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Are you coming to the GTG in ORH on Saturday? We'd love to have you join us. I was hoping to stop by. I should probably check that thread for details - ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I think we see a decent pattern for the immediate holiday season starting around the 20th, lasting for two weeks or so. Potential for snow and normal to slightly below normal temps, next week break out the spf but after the 20th its game on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I was hoping to stop by. I should probably check that thread for details - ha Yeah check the thread..but it's 2:00 and on at Funky Murphy's in ORH. Wear the "Men dig me I'm a met t-shirt" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 MEX has 1 below normal day, 7 above normal rolling forward. We can't drill low level cold in it seems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 MEX has 1 below normal day, 7 above normal rolling forward. We can't drill low level cold in it seems... Nope. The beat roles on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Seems like some of the MJO progs try to go back into phase 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 If it is clear, it's a total stinker, I'll root for a shutout just to see if we can do it. Oh wait, we got measurable in October.....as mentioned by many...NEVER a good sign for the CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Enough with the negative nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 If it is clear, it's a total stinker, I'll root for a shutout just to see if we can do it. Oh wait, we got measurable in October.....as mentioned by many...NEVER a good sign for the CP. Still beating the 12/10 pattern change drum? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Enough with the negative nonsense Face it Blizz...heavy heavy no snow coming for another week or two. Perhaps you guys get lucky up there, but no one is going to see heavy heavy snow for some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Enough with the negative nonsense You're right. Big snows coming..... Just calling it like we see them.....and it's bleak for a few more weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 Enough with the negative nonsense Looks like we may have a shot at a SWFE a week from now. The 12z GFS today looks pretty good. 50/50 low with a banana high feeding down into New England. Primary heads up into the GL, with a secondary cutting underneath SNE. post of the day from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Looks like we may have a shot at a SWFE a week from now. The 12z GFS today looks pretty good. 50/50 low with a banana high feeding down into New England. Primary heads up into the GL, with a secondary cutting underneath SNE. post of the day from me. Then there are the euro and ensembles showing a cutter. Whhaaaaa....Whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 Then there are the euro and ensembles showing a cutter. Whhaaaaa....Whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Hey, this isn't the place for realism and negativity, only positive thoughts. That being said, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Looks like we may have a shot at a SWFE a week from now. The 12z GFS today looks pretty good. 50/50 low with a banana high feeding down into New England. Primary heads up into the GL, with a secondary cutting underneath SNE. ... post of the day from me. Actually...that would have to be a miller B. That confluence in Onatario would never allow that to move W of New England... It would shear aloft but probably have enough residual dynamics to induce a coastal cyclogen near NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 Actually...that would have to be a miller B. That confluence in Onatario would never allow that to move W of New England... It would shear aloft but probably have enough residual dynamics to induce a coastal cyclogen near NJ. I agree to diasgree. Not with a primary coming out of the SW like that. That setup on the 12z GFS looks like a classic SWFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Rain and warmth all winter. pattern terrible, models show no sign of winter. MJO stuck in 4 all winter,ensembles look awful leading to record warm winter, flowers blooming in neighbors yards all winter, mowing every other week, full leaf out by mid Jan. No threats, no cold shots, nothing promising, negative is good positive is bad,, warm rains , severe wx outbreaks, bugs never dying, ladybugs in houses,soccer moms with mini van windows rolled down all winter,kids riding bikes in shirt sleeves to ring in the New Year, folks opening pools in late Jan, landscapers offering spring cleanups after holidays are over, folks installing air conditioners for Groundhogs day,first Lesco application Valentines Day,Opening day in baseball moved up to Feb 25th...negatiivity FTW, positivty FTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Actually...that would have to be a miller B. That confluence in Onatario would never allow that to move W of New England... It would shear aloft but probably have enough residual dynamics to induce a coastal cyclogen near NJ. That's exactly what's its depicting at hour 192.. classic Miller B setup there.. could be something to vaguely watch over the next few days.. well see what euro shows GFS is usually decent in sniffing out storms in this time range and then lose them only to bring them back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I agree to diasgree. Not with a primary coming out of the SW like that. That setup on the 12z GFS looks like a classic SWFE. I wasn't totally serious but...actually, no - suppose that chart actually took place. The idea of confluence blocking is Meteorologically clad. sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Rain and warmth all winter. pattern terrible, models show no sign of winter. MJO stuck in 4 all winter,ensembles look awful leading to record warm winter, flowers blooming in neighbors yards all winter, mowing every other week, full leaf out by mid Jan. No threats, no cold shots, nothing promising, negative is good positive is bad,, warm rains , severe wx outbreaks, bugs never dying, ladybugs in houses,soccer moms with mini van windows rolled down all winter,kids riding bikes in shirt sleeves to ring in the New Year, folks opening pools in late Jan, landscapers offering spring cleanups after holidays are over, folks installing air conditioners for Groundhogs day,first Lesco application Valentines Day,Opening day in baseball moved up to Feb 25th...negatiivity FTW, positivty FTL The pattern has clearly gotten to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 The pattern has clearly gotten to you LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 The pattern has clearly gotten to you Not at all. I got an inch of snow last night. How about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Not at all. I got an inch of snow last night. How about you? Wind and thunder was wild. Stinger FTW. Enjoy your inch it may be the only inch you get all month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Bow Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Actually...that would have to be a miller B. That confluence in Onatario would never allow that to move W of New England... It would shear aloft but probably have enough residual dynamics to induce a coastal cyclogen near NJ. If this were baseball you'd be guaranteed a spot in the hall of fame. RE: Post #3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Wind and thunder was wild. Stinger FTW. Enjoy your inch it may be the only inch you get all winter Fixed to stick with negative theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Hey, this isn't the place for realism and negativity, only positive thoughts. That being said, what do you think? My guess next week is that the storm is a mild one...the one at the end of the week. I don't really see any changes yet. You can tell the ridge wants to build, but it's not really convincing yet. Maybe it's trying to hint at something, but I think it's more of the same in the next 2-3 weeks or more....the overall pattern that is. We all know it doesn't mean snowless, but I don't see it as conducive for snow. It sucks, but it is what it is. Some see it as negativity, but its reality. These past 6 weeks have been excruciating for winter enthusiasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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