AppsRunner Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 This is a cruel trick by the NAM. That's a keeper. Only if I want to get "winter depressed" that is. Sweet... 0" here, 10" 30 miles north. Just what I wanted.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeenerWx Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 That's a keeper. Only if I want to get "winter depressed" that is. Whatever we did to deserve this must be undone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Never seen a "snow gap" like that before. That's like a snow accumulation map for two separate mountain ranges and the gap is a valley/lowlands. Weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Normal highs in the 40's for most below MI in the game.. At least there is a chance yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Whatever we did to deserve this must be undone. Hey, we're currently running a surplus. But any notion of overall LAF screwjobs isn't relevant anymore, at least since Feb 2007. And the 0z GFS looks like crap on a stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 GEM's coming way NW (hint: 1014mb low just SW of Cleveland), and it's toasty as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 GEM's coming way NW (hint: 1014mb low just SW of Cleveland), and it's toasty as well. Has the NAM been most consistent?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Not sure what robbed me more....the 0z NAM or the NCAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Not sure what robbed me more....the 0z NAM or the NCAA Blame Dantonio on that one. Why did he send to block...stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Never seen a "snow gap" like that before. That's like a snow accumulation map for two separate mountain ranges and the gap is a valley/lowlands. Weird... I'll be shocked if the gap happens. I think it's either a continuous narrow band of heavy snow or not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 First call for LAF: 0-3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 This is a cruel trick by the NAM. Ya I really hope this moves north... Zero snowmobile trails in the entire path of this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Ya I really hope this moves north... Zero snowmobile trails in the entire path of this storm. Sadly for now At least you got one sweet ride in already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 First call for LAF: 0-3" Aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Puzzling why the NAM has so much boundary layer warmth around here on this run. Nothing has really changed fundamentally. Same thing happened with the last system and ended up being incorrect as the temps were able to wet bulb downward. I would be very skeptical of any low-level warmth that is from 950mb to the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Same thing happened with the last system and ended up being incorrect as the temps were able to wet bulb downward. I would be very skeptical of any low-level warmth that is from 950mb to the surface. I am to a point...the thing that concerns me a little more than last time is that the airmass up to 850 mb is more marginal. That is a pretty thick layer where slight errors can wreak havoc. I'm speaking more for my area...may be a different story up your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Hmm, Accuweather having issues with new 00Z Euro text data come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I am to a point...the thing that concerns me a little more than last time is that the airmass up to 850 mb is more marginal. That is a pretty thick layer where slight errors can wreak havoc. I'm speaking more for my area...may be a different story up your way. True the temps are a bit more marginal this time around especially down your way, probably why the NAM is a no go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 As far as I can tell, the 00z Euro suggests a decent hit roughly CMI-DNV-LAF-FWA-DTW as long as low levels cooperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 As far as I can tell, the 00z Euro suggests a decent hit roughly CMI-DNV-LAF-FWA-DTW as long as low levels cooperate. I'll let you know when text comes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I'll let you know when text comes out Not that good for the LAF crew... Looks ugly during the majority of the precip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Not that good for the LAF crew... Looks ugly during the majority of the precip Could you post the text? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 0z ECMWF... STL: MON 12Z 05-DEC 1.6 -0.5 1025 74 93 0.05 563 543 MON 18Z 05-DEC 1.6 -2.2 1025 76 99 0.07 560 541 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 1.1 -3.8 1026 80 98 0.13 559 539 TUE 06Z 06-DEC 1.7 -5.3 1026 79 93 0.01 557 536 DEC: MON 12Z 05-DEC 1.9 -0.6 1025 81 86 0.03 563 543 MON 18Z 05-DEC 2.2 -2.1 1024 85 100 0.08 560 541 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 1.5 -4.2 1025 97 97 0.11 558 538 TUE 06Z 06-DEC 1.6 -4.9 1026 89 97 0.03 556 536 LAF: MON 06Z 05-DEC 3.7 1.6 1024 89 84 0.05 565 546 MON 12Z 05-DEC 3.3 0.5 1024 93 100 0.20 564 544 MON 18Z 05-DEC 3.1 -0.7 1023 93 98 0.19 562 544 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 1.9 -3.3 1024 97 98 0.17 559 540 TUE 06Z 06-DEC 1.1 -4.1 1024 87 93 0.07 558 538 IND: MON 06Z 05-DEC 6.0 3.3 1023 96 100 0.24 568 549 MON 12Z 05-DEC 4.7 1.9 1023 96 100 0.47 566 548 MON 18Z 05-DEC 4.6 1.6 1021 95 99 0.40 564 547 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 2.0 0.2 1021 97 99 0.28 562 545 TUE 06Z 06-DEC 1.3 -1.7 1023 91 80 0.08 561 542 OKK: MON 06Z 05-DEC 4.9 2.1 1024 94 98 0.11 566 547 MON 12Z 05-DEC 4.1 0.7 1024 95 100 0.36 565 545 MON 18Z 05-DEC 3.4 -0.1 1022 94 98 0.30 563 545 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 1.3 -2.1 1022 98 100 0.22 560 542 TUE 06Z 06-DEC 0.8 -3.4 1024 87 97 0.10 558 540 FWA: MON 06Z 05-DEC 5.8 2.1 1024 95 98 0.14 566 547 MON 12Z 05-DEC 4.1 0.8 1024 95 100 0.30 565 545 MON 18Z 05-DEC 3.3 -0.1 1022 94 99 0.34 563 545 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 1.3 -1.8 1022 97 99 0.24 560 543 TUE 06Z 06-DEC 0.6 -3.4 1023 88 97 0.15 558 540 TUE 12Z 06-DEC -0.5 -4.3 1024 80 85 0.01 555 536 VPZ: MON 18Z 05-DEC 4.3 -2.7 1024 79 96 0.02 559 540 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 2.0 -5.1 1025 85 100 0.04 556 536 TUE 06Z 06-DEC 1.5 -5.1 1025 75 98 0.03 554 534 BTL: MON 18Z 05-DEC 2.5 -2.4 1025 81 91 0.03 560 540 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 1.2 -4.3 1025 78 99 0.04 557 537 TUE 06Z 06-DEC -0.1 -4.5 1025 75 98 0.04 554 535 ADG: MON 06Z 05-DEC 5.5 1.4 1024 95 85 0.12 565 546 MON 12Z 05-DEC 3.5 0.6 1025 95 99 0.12 564 544 MON 18Z 05-DEC 2.1 -0.5 1024 97 98 0.26 562 543 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 0.9 -2.1 1023 95 98 0.22 560 541 TUE 06Z 06-DEC 0.3 -3.2 1022 90 99 0.15 557 539 TUE 12Z 06-DEC -1.2 -4.1 1024 84 93 0.01 554 535 PTK: MON 06Z 05-DEC 4.6 0.7 1024 93 67 0.05 564 544 MON 12Z 05-DEC 3.3 0.0 1025 91 80 0.02 563 542 MON 18Z 05-DEC 1.8 -1.4 1025 93 97 0.10 561 541 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 1.0 -2.9 1024 90 98 0.12 558 539 TUE 06Z 06-DEC 0.6 -3.7 1022 87 98 0.11 555 538 TUE 12Z 06-DEC -0.4 -4.1 1024 84 95 0.01 552 533 DTW: MON 06Z 05-DEC 6.1 1.2 1024 94 89 0.13 565 546 MON 12Z 05-DEC 4.2 0.5 1025 94 97 0.10 564 544 MON 18Z 05-DEC 2.5 -0.5 1024 96 98 0.28 562 543 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 1.3 -1.9 1023 96 98 0.23 559 541 TUE 06Z 06-DEC 1.1 -2.9 1022 91 99 0.17 557 540 TUE 12Z 06-DEC 0.4 -3.7 1023 87 98 0.02 554 536 TDZ: MON 06Z 05-DEC 7.8 2.1 1023 96 99 0.21 567 548 MON 12Z 05-DEC 4.8 1.0 1024 96 100 0.25 566 546 MON 18Z 05-DEC 4.3 0.3 1022 95 99 0.45 564 546 TUE 00Z 06-DEC 1.4 -0.7 1022 99 98 0.37 561 543 TUE 06Z 06-DEC 1.0 -2.2 1021 96 100 0.24 559 542 TUE 12Z 06-DEC 0.8 -3.4 1023 91 94 0.03 556 538 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QVectorman Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 This is a cruel trick by the NAM. Guess I'm the only one that loves this run...I'm right in the bull's eye! Savoring the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Narrow stripes of heavy snow in Missouri and southeast Michigan as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Ya I really hope this moves north... Zero snowmobile trails in the entire path of this storm. plenty of places to snowmobile in metro-Detroit, just not official trails lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Illinois Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 06Z NAM is pretty ugly to say the least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 This whole setup is looking like it'll yield very little. December 2011 not off to a spectacular start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an uncanny otter Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Yeah, The Weather Network has completely abandoned all hope for any snow in southern Ontario until next week if we're lucky. Maybe a crippling 1-3 cm in Ottawa if they're lucky. Time to get out the rubber boots again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Yeah, The Weather Network has completely abandoned all hope for any snow in southern Ontario until next week if we're lucky. Maybe a crippling 1-3 cm in Ottawa if they're lucky. Time to get out the rubber boots again. What sucks is that we're kind of in a window of opportunity here with PNA becoming neutral and the EPO negative. I've been hearing rumblings (over in the NE subforum, although I haven't checked back in about 36 hours) that the EURO ensembles are showing a mid month +EPO/-PNA torch regime. With no help from the Atlantic, there may not be a next week for us. That's why it was sort of important to me to get something to come to fruition with one of these waves. Not impossible, but looking bleak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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