TheTrials Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Gradient type pattern. We do fairly well with these type of patterns. not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 lol. i hope you are not serious. the time of the day has no effect on sun angle. no whatter how you change what time it is the suns angle will still be the same. I don't think people follow through with thinking what it means if we could increase the sun angle by changing the time. Taking it a step further, if we increased DST to say 6 hours, then all those extra hours of increased sun angle would bring summer weather in March!!!1! All by moving a plastic hand around a few times. Pretty incredible if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 not really. I think Anthony moved to the Saint Lawrence Valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drz1111 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 lol. i hope you are not serious. the time of the day has no effect on sun angle. no whatter how you change what time it is the suns angle will still be the same. oh no kidding they never taught me that in my atmospheric sciences classes or my climatology classes guess a masters degree in climatology isnt worth much lol but i still think it melts more in march they just have to figure out why maybe its global warming!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I think Anthony moved to the Saint Lawrence Valley. must be, because everything he posts would make you think we average 200 inches a year. this area sucks for a gradient pattern, except one winter 93/94 and that was a one in 1/1000 year winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 oh no kidding they never taught me that in my atmospheric sciences classes or my climatology classes guess a masters degree in climatology isnt worth much lol but i still think it melts more in march they just have to figure out why maybe its global warming!!! They didn't teach you that because it would be like teaching you that unicorns don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drz1111 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 They didn't teach you that because it would be like teaching you that unicorns don't exist. Jesus Christ, man, can't you tell when you're being trolled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Jesus Christ, man, can't you tell when you're being trolled? Is that what you called that? It didn't sound like trolling because people have posted similar stuff only in a serious manner.. We've had some major dumbasses on here before that believed just that so its hard to tell sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 must be, because everything he posts would make you think we average 200 inches a year. this area sucks for a gradient pattern, except one winter 93/94 and that was a one in 1/1000 year winter 2008-2009 also. 28"-45" for NYC and LI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Pop up rain shower here in Astoria. Quite sad. These should be pop up snow showers. But too bad it's 51 friggin degrees at 9:30pm. The best is that tomorrow morning, precip will overperform and we'll still get rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Pop up rain shower here in Astoria. Quite sad. These should be pop up snow showers. But too bad it's 51 friggin degrees at 9:30pm. The best is that tomorrow morning, precip will overperform and we'll still get rain. Wow I hadnt even noticed the temp differences, we are down to 36º in nyack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Showers on the jersey shore too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 2008-2009 also. 28"-45" for NYC and LI. I measured 45" in Dobbs Ferry during the 08-09 winter with 10" in the 3/2 storm and 8" in 12/19... The area can do fine in a gradient pattern but the -EPO has to be more poleward with the PV over Hudson Bay instead of Baffin Island and Greenland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I somehow doubt Central Park is going to hit the freezing mark during the next few nights. The only night in which it will be close is on Saturday night; but Upton's forecast low of 30*F is very borderline and has somewhat of a margin of error at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Weather is boring. Lets make fun of Trials...who wants to go first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 GFS starting to build some higher heights over Greenland past hr 180, which in turn displaces that vortex over the Hudson bay..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 GFS starting to build some higher heights over Greenland past hr 180, which in turn displaces that vortex over the Hudson bay..... The Euro doesnt agree though, still kept a massive +AO/NAO around at 0z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The Euro doesnt agree though, still kept a massive +AO/NAO around at 0z 6z gfs is very nice in super fantasy range of day 9-12. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Looks like we may take a run at 60 degrees again later next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof09 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Looks like we may take a run at 60 degrees again later next week. Its not even starting to feel alot like christmas. I havent even seen my first snowflake of the season yet its completely different than the past few winters. End of this month maybe january may bring some hope.....i hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Its not even starting to feel alot like christmas. I havent even seen my first snowflake of the season yet its completely different than the past few winters. End of this month maybe january may bring some hope.....i hope It feels like perpetual fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Its not even starting to feel alot like christmas. I havent even seen my first snowflake of the season yet its completely different than the past few winters. End of this month maybe january may bring some hope.....i hope Yeah, it would be pretty tough to get three great Decembers in a row around here. It's rare enough to get two great ones back to back. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/climate/records/monthseasonsnowfall.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Yeah, it would be pretty tough to get three great Decembers in a row around here. It's rare enough to get two great ones back to back. http://www.erh.noaa....onsnowfall.html 12z OP GFS looks good toward Christmas..nice +PNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 12z OP GFS looks good toward Christmas..nice +PNA. 12z GFS looks nice in the long range. Not a bad run at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Looks like we may take a run at 60 degrees again later next week. Fits the MJO composites very nicely at 500mb as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 12z OP GFS looks good toward Christmas..nice +PNA. I am not really a big fan of using the GFS ensembles past the 6-10 day range. Pattern changes if they happen, usually take longer to happen than the models suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Fits the MJO composites very nicely at 500mb as well. Yeah, it looks like the details will come down to how fast the warm front clears our area and the amount of sunshine behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 A few transient cold shots on the GFS...other wise, nothing noteworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 A few transient cold shots on the GFS...other wise, nothing noteworthy Agreed. Terrible pattern continues on 12z GFS. Nothing different at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 A few transient cold shots on the GFS...other wise, nothing noteworthy It's a cold run though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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