capitalweather Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Happy reading: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/december-outlook-below-average-snow-likely/2011/12/01/gIQAyxSwGO_blog.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Great write up as usual, Wes - just sad at the outcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Great write up as usual, Wes - just sad at the outcome I actually thought this was an even better teaching writeup than usual, which says a lot. Really informative for someone like me! Sad at the lack of good shots for snow, but at least it's not a cold/dry outlook. No expectations, no disappointments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Time to pack it in for December. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I actually thought this was an even better teaching writeup than usual, which says a lot. Really informative for someone like me! Sad at the lack of good shots for snow, but at least it's not a cold/dry outlook. No expectations, no disappointments. I agree completely, as usual Wes explains it in a way that us noobs can understand. As for the lack of snow potential - it is what it is. There is still Jan/Feb to look forward to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I hope it does not snow again all winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thanks, Wes. This is a really good explanation of what we may see for a while and while disappointing it is reality. Jan will be rockin! I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 why is this pinned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I hope it does not snow again all winter. December cancel. Can we get the other two months to follow suit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 All I'm left with is the hope that we can time a transitory "cold" shot for Christmas. Honestly, there is nothing as depressing as mild air for Christmas. Nothing. I'd take a hundred 33F and rainy Christmases rather than one more 55F Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 All I'm left with is the hope that we can time a transitory "cold" shot for Christmas. Honestly, there is nothing as depressing as mild air for Christmas. Nothing. I'd take a hundred 33F and rainy Christmases rather than one more 55F Christmas. then you've come to the right place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I hope it does not snow again all winter. I want to see my new, bright LED Christmas lights (75% off last Jan at HT!) reflecting off of the snow on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjohnson102184 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 This site is Full of weenies who like to Jump ship earl......What else is new with you guys LOL the MA will see snow in DEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalweather Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Just as a heads-up, Wes is golfing, but he'll be back tonight to answer questions posted here or on the CWG blog. - Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Just as a heads-up, Wes is golfing, but he'll be back tonight to answer questions posted here or on the CWG blog. - Jason I hope he is not slicing his putz i mean putts. Great write up Wes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Just as a heads-up, Wes is golfing, but he'll be back tonight to answer questions posted here or on the CWG blog. - Jason Good for Wes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Good for Wes! it's for effect... "this pattern sucks so much im going golfing" let's hope he does a lot of fishing into january. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 it's for effect... "this pattern sucks so much im going golfing" let's hope he does a lot of fishing into january. You just don't want snow, so of course you are going to hope he goes fishing. You're the anti-snow weenie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Another great discussion by Wes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1551 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Wes great write up!!! Seems like were going back to typical winters in the Dc area. We have been spoiled the past couple of winters. Well,really last year we kinda missed out on plenty of snow storms. What followed after that past back to back La Nina"s? I do not mind playing golf in the winter. I kinda like it. We still have Jan & Feb to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeoman Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 This site is Full of weenies who like to Jump ship earl......What else is new with you guys LOL the MA will see snow in DEC. No, just emotionally weak people who perceive lack of snow in their back yard to be a personal failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowdude Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I completely agree with his write up. You can see it in the extended range on both the GFS and EURO. The SE Ridge puts up a big fight through most of December. Without the negative AO and NAO, we'll likely have low chances of cold outbreaks and good snowstorms. However, we can still 'get lucky' in this kind of pattern. The NAO has been averaging more negative over the past few years and it can still and probably will go negative for a time this winter. So we still have chances as we always do. No need to give up now. Blizzard of '96? Who knows! Hopefully we'll get a good snowy ending? It's happened before. Here's to January, February, and March? haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris21 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 it's for effect... "this pattern sucks so much im going golfing"let's hope he does a lot of fishing into january. Ian, as a very avid fisherman, even if it is the warmest january on record fishing will still be horrible in the bay, water is too cold, maybe some mud shad...or yellow perch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thanks everyone for the nice comments. I really felt good about the piece after I wrote it except for what it said. La nina with a positive AO stinks. I'm not yet ready to write off the winter. We still could get a sudden stratospheric warming event to help weaken the vortex and who knows what the nov eurasian snow cover means. As to golfing, I shot really well today and beat my course record by a stroke but going into the last hole I hit a great drive and then made a triple bogie after parring and birdying the two previous holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avdave Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Well written Wes, and makes it easy to understand for us weenies. I have been on your train since the start of the season and agree with a lot of what you wrote. Anyone who thought 09-10 was going to make even a small portion of that season is off their rocker. Just have to suck it up and enjoy the low heating bills this season, It is what it is and no one can control Mother Nature and her cronies, the AO, NAO, etc etc. Great write up bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Well written Wes, and makes it easy to understand for us weenies. I have been on your train since the start of the season and agree with a lot of what you wrote. Anyone who thought 09-10 was going to make even a small portion of that season is off their rocker. Just have to suck it up and enjoy the low heating bills this season, It is what it is and no one can control Mother Nature and her cronies, the AO, NAO, etc etc. Great write up bro Not everyone at CWG agrees with my discussion as someone noted that there can really fast changes can occur and sited dec 2000 so there may be another article tomorrow by CWG (not me). Personally, I think that year was much different in the strength of the polar vortex at both the stratosphere and troposphere but of course I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Wow, I never saw this today..... Tlaf about a nina look. Cold west, not as cold east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Wow, I never saw this today..... Tlaf about a nina look. Cold west, not as cold east. you're not going to fall for those silly maps, are you Wes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 you're not going to fall for those silly maps, are you Wes? Since they both show a la nina like look with a potent positive nao, I'll fall for them until the end of dec, then I have no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Wow, I never saw this today..... Tlaf about a nina look. Cold west, not as cold east. Looks good like the wizards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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