psv88 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I will say though, that when events do occur, even the non pros provide valuable information. For example, i am one of the few posters from north/west/centralish nassau county, so i provide my obs during storms, pics, etc...but that is about the extent of my addition to the official thread. I have learned a ton from you guys and its amazing to watch you all analyze storms and all. I just think the banter thread is a place also where us non-pros can post without feeling...err...self-conscious almost...What can i add to model discussion? In reality, absolutely nothing. This is where banter thread comes in...i can learn more about weather without clogging up the official board as well, talk about topography, geography, bibliography, podophilia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 It seems like most of the other topics are specific in nature, ie. reminiscing about a certain storm, talking about first and last freeze date, things of that nature. Since there aren't many other topics that people are posting in, unless you are interested in that specific thread you are most likely to come into the banter. When I check in periodically throughout the day I look to see where people are posting, otherwise I'm not likely to read those threads. But I'm also at work and not a pro forecaster so I don't have access to maps and such to post my own thoughts and ideas on long term pattern trends etc. I'm much more likely to jump into a 'hot' thread where there's lots of activity and share my thoughts there. i must have misunderstood then. no biggie. but what would happen if the main area of discussion is moved to the discussion thread? i feel like it would get clogged up with weak posts, which im sure most of us dont want. id rather have lower volume but high quality posts in the discussion thread, is kind of my point, because im not sure how many folks can provide that content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Euro ensembles look better mid to long range. Maybe one of the better runs in the last month or so. Need to watch something just before Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 nothing was threatened, it was under consideration. also, i never said that the banter thread should be less banter. i said that i don't like the fact that everyone is defaulting to this thread as the main area of discussion. i think you misunderstood my point. the areas you bolded in the quote, that was my point. as other have stated, there is nothing going on right now... why wouldn't the banter thread be the most active? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Nothing better than filling the banter thread with banter about banter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 These posts are a good example of why the banter thread should be done away with...everybody posts absolutely useless garbage in here and nobody participates in any constructive discussion anymore. Get your sh*t together, people. Hey. Don't look now, but it looks like you have ignited a constructive discussion about the lack of constructive discussion in this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Methinks the staff forum discussed banter threads very recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 as other have stated, there is nothing going on right now... why wouldn't the banter thread be the most active? Read the posts dude, we spoke about how during the storms this thread was still the most active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Hey. Don't look now, but it looks like you have ignited a constructive discussion about the lack of constructive discussion in this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefflaw77 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I understand Earthlight's point, and while I don't have this site's statistics on posting, it would appear that what has been happening lately is simply out of pure frustration.. There has been so little to talk about lately that most of us are just posting for the mere fact of posting.. But yes, as Earthlight did mention, there is always a lot to learn. Again, with many on here not old enough to remember the 1980's, this type of winter (so far) is a good example/season to use to try to understand what is creating such a boring weather pattern.. Ya we all know +AO, +NAO etc but there is definitely more to it and for the few who are really interested in what's occurring day in and day out, a more substantive thread and commentary would be helpful.. (I think that's what Earthlight is trying to say) Back in the day, I remember going onto NE.Weather and praying that people would post just something to keep us enlightened as to what was coming up during these winter droughts.. At the end of the day though, the Banter threat is just that, for us to complain and b**ch about silliness.. So there would be no reason I think to get rid of it.. JMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 At least the material being discussed in the banter thread relates to Banter! Not at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Miller B on the CMC? GFS and Euro say no. It stays flat, but im grasping at straws here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I dont understand why lake cutters are sometimes essential to building a -NAO. how does that work? not sure if I should post this in banter or in the discussion thread. Earthlight got me all confused now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCSuburbs Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Is it just me or does it seem that all of the "pattern change" posts from JB, Steve D, DT, ect. keep repeating themselves? I keep seeing all of those "major stratospheric warming" posts showing up which by now is starting to get repetitive, there does seem to be very slight warming, yet I can still easily find reasons suggesting why the pattern isn't changing at this time - the stratosphere is still cold, blocking still fails to develop, the MJO is stuck in the COD closer to phases 4-5, AO and NAO are still positive, EPO is neutral/positive, and there's definitely more reasons. It's not going to be any endless torch, but realistically looking at the pattern, I see nothing that suggests a bigger pattern change is coming until at least early January, if not later in the scenario that any change is delayed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 New board wwww.nothingbutbanterstevedjbdtmetfanposts.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I dont understand why lake cutters are sometimes essential to building a -NAO. how does that work? not sure if I should post this in banter or in the discussion thread. Earthlight got me all confused now.... they wrap up and pull heigher heights into greenland and can get stuck into a position of being a pv so it continues to reinforce the heigher heights. Its usually a temporary block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 It's not just you. But they also tend to throw out 'headline' type updates that don't really say much but aim to get people to go to their sites/sign up/pay for more information. JB has been on the global warming thing for years now and is quite obsessed with it. So I never know whether its his agenda or if he is actually forecasting anything. But yes when you hear it day in and day out how the pattern is starting to change, well maybe it is maybe its not but so far we have nothing to show for it and it just feels like its always 2 to 3 weeks out Is it just me or does it seem that all of the "pattern change" posts from JB, Steve D, DT, ect. keep repeating themselves? I keep seeing all of those "major stratospheric warming" posts showing up which by now is starting to get repetitive, there does seem to be very slight warming, yet I can still easily find reasons suggesting why the pattern isn't changing at this time - the stratosphere is still cold, blocking still fails to develop, the MJO is stuck in the COD closer to phases 4-5, AO and NAO are still positive, EPO is neutral/positive, and there's definitely more reasons. It's not going to be any endless torch, but realistically looking at the pattern, I see nothing that suggests a bigger pattern change is coming until at least early January, if not later in the scenario that any change is delayed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 New board wwww.nothingbutbanterstevedjbdtmetfanposts.com Can I be a moderator on your board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Can I be a moderator on your board? yes. And your first task is to ban yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 they wrap up and pull heigher heights into greenland and can get stuck into a position of being a pv so it continues to reinforce the heigher heights. Its usually a temporary block. we had the huge hudson bay vortex prior and after our last storm....i was always looking for it to send higher heights into greenland. but i guess because it was so strong it just blew threw greenland. so, to build heights there we cant have the hudson bay lows be too powerful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 yes. And your first task is to ban yourself. Now why would I do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 12, 2011 Author Share Posted December 12, 2011 Everyone give anthony a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 we had the huge hudson bay vortex prior and after our last storm....i was always looking for it to send higher heights into greenland. but i guess because it was so strong it just blew threw greenland. so, to build heights there we cant have the hudson bay lows be too powerful? you want them to sit and spin, in order to do that, they can't as you say, blow by. There is a reason they are called blocky patterns, there needs to be a log jam somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Everyone give anthony a break you're next on our list unless you deliver 10,000.00 in small unmarked bills to Mt. Earthlight in the next 20 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 From Larry Cosgrove Ensemble forecasts from GGEM, GFS, and ECMWF equations are now much colder across lower 48 states after December 23. With block of stratospheric warming continued over northernmost Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 its this thread. See, atown's post is absolutely fine in this thread. So is abc's. Metfan could come in here and tell us how Steve D promised him 300 inches of snow in march, and all would still be well. Just keep it out of the threads that are for serious disco, and for the record, anything beyond 5 days really can't be considered serious disco unless we are talking about pattern change and then you gotta back it up with something other than a 240 hour prog. Everyone give anthony a break I can care less what people think.I have taken heat in the past. Nothing new at all. From Larry Cosgrove I was just about to post this. He feels really confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 From Larry Cosgrove I always liked Larry because of his long range forecasts and his love for snow. He used to be in Philly along with Rob Guarino, who I also really like. They both left, but they still are good to read online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 you're next on our list unless you deliver 10,000.00 in small unmarked bills to Mt. Earthlight in the next 20 minutes. Who are you, Mitt Romney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I can care less what people think.I have taken heat in the past. Nothing new at all. I was just about to post this. He feels really confident. quick note...its "couldn't care less" . cuz if you "can care less" than that means you do care about what people think lol. anyway, i enjoy LC as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 quick note...its "couldn't care less" . cuz if you "can care less" than that means you do care about what people think lol. anyway, i enjoy LC as well. Everybody's a critic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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