TheTrials Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I liked A-L-E-X ... great poster ... what happened to him to get him banned? He didn't seem like the type to stir things up at all. he is here under several names still if you want to reach out to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9olKSUNYjw Tyson's awesome. I have seen him speak before and I think I saw him appear on Bill Maher's show as well. I'm kinda skeptical, but that could just be because this is a newfangled approach. Tidal forces influencing storm formation? They must have some effect, but is it significant to the point that real-world effects can result? Wasn't turtlehurricane on eastern doing some research on moon phases and hurricane formation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The snow birds are flying, which means good things are coming sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The snow birds are flying, which means good things are coming sooner than later. What is your latest thinking for when the pattern change comes? Think we can get a little snow for Christmas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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earthlight Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 What is your latest thinking for when the pattern change comes? Think we can get a little snow for Christmas? If the Euro stratospheric maps are correct we should be seeing some signs of change after Christmas. So maybe the first or second week of January we can get into something good. Here's a link to a I did today for the pattern through the holidays. (Nothing exciting re: snow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 If the Euro stratospheric maps are correct we should be seeing some signs of change after Christmas. So maybe the first or second week of January we can get into something good. Here's a link to a I did today for the pattern through the holidays. (Nothing exciting re: snow) Thanks! I'll go watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 yea....pure porn! when the -10c contour approaches to our NW, lol....wat a cold system this was. ratios were insane. I think newark had around 1.5 inch of liquid if im not mistaken. i remember ratios were around 20:1 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Overrated because I dont remember it at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Overrated because I dont remember it at all well you weren't born numb nuts. No way that storm could be over-rated. You need a time out just for saying this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 If the pattern doesn't change within the next 3 weeks, Ruggie will cancel the winter lol. Thats a bit early, but if you don't get a change by mid-January then you can just about toss it. I always like to bring up the summer analogy. Think of how many summers did a 180 after mid-July in the warmer direction. The only one which comes to mind is 2001, I believe 1984 did as well maybe. Overall though you see very few winters and summers respectively which will sharply turn colder and warmer after 1/15 and 7/15...when talking about going the other way towards colder after 7/15 or warmer after 1/15 that does occur more frequently. That always is my reminder to people when we have one 90 degree day by mid-July or are averaging +3 on 1/15....very rarely are you going to turn it around overnight if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 well you weren't born numb nuts. No way that storm could be over-rated. You need a time out just for saying this. i think hes kidding....well, i hope he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELCwx Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 If the Euro stratospheric maps are correct we should be seeing some signs of change after Christmas. So maybe the first or second week of January we can get into something good. Here's a link to a I did today for the pattern through the holidays. (Nothing exciting re: snow) Earthlight - thanks for a great discussion of issues such as high latitude blocking and the effects of the interactions of Atlantic and Pacific anomalies on winter weather in the NE. I know that this is well known to a lot of those here but for people like me trying to learn it is a great help. I have been looking for a while for a place to get a comprehensive overview of this. Your video has increased my knowledge by 100%! Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 All this talk of winter cancellations brings me joy, I feel like a grinch. I know it'll come on strong sooner or later but one can dream... Although I wouldn't mind a white Christmas/Xmas Eve with at least a 20"+ snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 All this talk of winter cancellations brings me joy, I feel like a grinch. I know it'll come on strong sooner or later but one can dream... Although I wouldn't mind a white Christmas/Xmas Eve with at least a 20"+ snowfall. I want a boxing day redux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green tube Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I want a boxing day redux. as great as that storm was, i actually enjoyed the january 26 storm more. but just look at that 32 day period......... 7 snowfalls of 1" or more. 3 snowfalls of 8" or more. 2 snowfalls of 18" or more. 53.2" of snow in 32 days. good luck ever seeing that again. ....your backyard may vary.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I want a boxing day redux. Me too, those snowdrifts were unreal, most were taller than me. It was a disrespectful storm from the start, I remember having to walk 2 miles practically bent over to avoid being assaulted with snow, this was barely an hour into the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Earthlight - thanks for a great discussion of issues such as high latitude blocking and the effects of the interactions of Atlantic and Pacific anomalies on winter weather in the NE. I know that this is well known to a lot of those here but for people like me trying to learn it is a great help. I have been looking for a while for a place to get a comprehensive overview of this. Your video has increased my knowledge by 100%! Thanks again. You've got it bud. Thanks for watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Thats a bit early, but if you don't get a change by mid-January then you can just about toss it. I always like to bring up the summer analogy. Think of how many summers did a 180 after mid-July in the warmer direction. The only one which comes to mind is 2001, I believe 1984 did as well maybe. Overall though you see very few winters and summers respectively which will sharply turn colder and warmer after 1/15 and 7/15...when talking about going the other way towards colder after 7/15 or warmer after 1/15 that does occur more frequently. That always is my reminder to people when we have one 90 degree day by mid-July or are averaging +3 on 1/15....very rarely are you going to turn it around overnight if at all. I was always under the impression '01 was warm and dry throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 as great as that storm was, i actually enjoyed the january 26 storm more. but just look at that 32 day period......... ....your backyard may vary.... hey man do you still have that link to all the hi res radars for storms in NJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 getting some LES here in the upstate of NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Down to 33 in central park/34 lga already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 as great as that storm was, i actually enjoyed the january 26 storm more. but just look at that 32 day period......... 7 snowfalls of 1" or more. 3 snowfalls of 8" or more. 2 snowfalls of 18" or more. 53.2" of snow in 32 days. good luck ever seeing that again. ....your backyard may vary.... I got 61 inches in that timeframe. Unbelieveable. Me too, those snowdrifts were unreal, most were taller than me. It was a disrespectful storm from the start, I remember having to walk 2 miles practically bent over to avoid being assaulted with snow, this was barely an hour into the storm. Here is a snowdrift near my house Down to 33 in central park/34 lga already 35 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 0z gfs is a pitiful pattern once again. SE ridge and lakes cutters non-stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 0z gfs is a pitiful pattern once again. SE ridge and lakes cutters non-stop. It's holding back a lot of energy. Patience. If that energy can eject with the cold air in place in the east, we can be in for some surprises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 It's holding back a lot of energy. Patience. ??? That would create the mother of all SE ridges without blocking. To snow in this pattern, we need weak waves, clipper like storms and maybe get lucky with a clipper, developing into a miller b. Energy being held back without a block is a recipe for a SE ridge, lakes cutter disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 ??? That would create the mother of all SE ridges without blocking. To snow in this pattern, we need weak waves, clipper like storms and maybe get lucky with a clipper, developing into a miller b. Energy being held back without a block is a recipe for a SE ridge, lakes cutter disaster. I would think it would be good for us. I bet the ensembles are going to show a different tune than the op run. I just can't wait until the AO and NAO go negative. I friggin want winter weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 I would think it would be good for us. I bet the ensembles are going to show a different tune than the op run. I just can't wait until the AO and NAO go negative. I friggin want winter weather. move out of brooklyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 move out of brooklyn What's the deal with the ssw? Gfs still showing warming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 move out of brooklyn I will when I get a better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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