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Banter and BS December 2011


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It was perfect..joshua called me screaming like a schoolgirl Dec 24 12z...

I remember I woke up and the first thing I posted was "IT'S A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!"

Absolute mayhem.

Whenever somebody mentions the word "schoolgirl," I always get giddy. ;)Were you actually screaming on the phone with him? Who is Joshua by the way?

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I went to bed so f**king pissed the night before too. I was on shift for the website so I was up until 5-6am...talking with baroclinic instability & dsnow in the nyc discussion thread about how the models were 25-50 miles away from bringing the shortwave from Manitoba straight down the plains and bringing this thing back...but it was a no go.

Obviously they caught on and the rest is history. But I'll never forget analyzing that shortwave on water vapor and realizing it was THAT shortwave from Canada that was important and not the one that came ashore a day earlier on the West Coast.

I felt the same. cry.gif

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I just remember essentially giving up on Thursday after the euro bailed and then coming on here probably Friday evening when the shift was just getting under way. And it was like wow we really have a shot...and then within 12 hours every model was on board. I was basically in total disbelief that it was actually going to happen when just the day before it seemed hopeless.

A lot of people were giving up on winter on that Thursday, let alone the storm itself. :(

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Be careful, there. I remember many media outlets were labeling the Brooklyn tornado in 2007 as a "once in a lifetime event for NYC." Contrary to this belief, NYC received a good number of EF0-EF1 tornadoes later on in the years of 2010-2011.

I dunno why everybody's giving him such a hard time for this... it may very well have been the best snowstorm in 20 years at his house from his point of view

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the difference is the duration. Only a few of us here know what its like to watch it snow for 36 hours and never slow down in intensity except for a small break for SOME people.

The youngins like earthlight, CooL have never seen that.

i agree...the duration in 1996 was unreal, it just snowed forever, i remember shoveling when the finals bands came through i think it might have been the 3rd day of snow, jan6-8 i think it was, i couldnt believe it was still snowing for a 3rd day...and it was so COLD too...it was like 17 degrees the whole time...absolutely amazing...

12/27/10 was a different storm...the wind was much stronger with that storm than 1996, the wind was unreal on the island, gusts 60+ with snow, that did not happen in 1996...

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My point exactly.. The east end radiates well during clear calm nights due to the soil etc.. but during events they torch.. I would hate to be a winter weather lover and live out there. It would be torcher..

I couldn't agree with you more...it never snows on Long Island...look at these horrendous snow totals for the last few winter seasons recorded at Brookhaven Lab / Upton in central Suffolk County...it is just like living at Hatteras...

1993-94: 55.0"

1995-96: 90.7"

2000-01: 51.2"

2002-03: 62.1"

2003-04: 60.2"

2004-05: 78.5"

2008-09: 43.0"

2009-10: 67.8"

2010-11: 61.5"

9 times in last 18 years more than 40 inches

8 times in last 18 years more than 50 inches

6 times in last 18 years more than 60 inches

2 times in last 18 years more than 70 inches

1 time in last 18 years more than 90 inches

Upton is on central Long Island with an altitude of 85 feet and the mean annual snowfall after 64 years of record keeping is 31.76". In the hilly areas on the N. Shore (the highest spot is just over the 400 foot mark) to the nw and wnw of Upton, average annual snowfall is likely one to three inches more in an average year, though we have no records to substantiate this.

http://www.bnl.gov/weather/4cast/MonthlySnowfall.htm

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the difference is the duration. Only a few of us here know what its like to watch it snow for 36 hours and never slow down in intensity except for a small break for SOME people.

The youngins like earthlight, CooL have never seen that.

Yup. Last year was incredible, but 96 was just insane. We went outside at 3 am-ish on monday morning, thinking we would never experience that again....yet a few hours later it was still ripping.

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Be careful, there. I remember many media outlets were labeling the Brooklyn tornado in 2007 as a "once in a lifetime event for NYC." Contrary to this belief, NYC received a good number of EF0-EF1 tornadoes later on in the years of 2010-2011.

If I have another event similar to Dec 26 2010 this season I will quit my job.

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Yup. Last year was incredible, but 96 was just insane. We went outside at 3 am-ish on monday morning, thinking we would never experience that again....yet a few hours later it was still ripping.

earthlight wasn't born, if he was and he saw that storm, dec 2010 would be like a clipper

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yawn. We nee to get some kind of fight or something going on in here, if the weather sucks, we might as well dust it up a little.

I'll start. Hey Sundog, you smell.

I made homemade cheesesteaks last night and the whole house including me smelled like sautéed onions.

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The way everything transpired was amazing.

But 1996 was also like this. Most models had the storm surpressed, right until 24-36 hours before.

No... JAN 1996 was, from the get go, was going to be a monster. That huge cutoff low was shown on the ECMWF, which was correct and it showed it slammed DC-BOS with 20": amounts.

BUT no model had PHL Metro getting 30+.

For me, DEC 2010 beats it in wind and snow rates.... and of course, I tracked on here with you guys! snowing3.gif

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