SnowGoose69 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Good news. Looks like arctic outbreak in the plains at day 10? If it weren't for the question mark at the end I'd have sworn this was a sarcastic post. That just shows you where everyone's minds here are starting to head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Euro = :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 If it weren't for the question mark at the end I'd have sworn this was a sarcastic post. That just shows you where everyone's minds here are starting to head. who cares about the plains. this isnt the cornhusk and cowtipping thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 who cares about the plains. this isnt the cornhusk and cowtipping thread. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 mention the possibility of Jan 06 warmth and moves Dec cold to the midwest/plains...reading b/w the lines, not going to be much winter for us....in his opinion of course Really? Joe Bastardi Meantime, get ready, a shot of climate change propaganda from the arctic is coming to charge south with major early cold,snow/ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Is anybody else having trouble posting in other threads?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 He also just said that it will be the 4th year in a row that the nation as a whole is below normal for the month of December. Really? Joe Bastardi Meantime, get ready, a shot of climate change propaganda from the arctic is coming to charge south with major early cold,snow/ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 enuff of the JB bullchit. he is beyond banter thread eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 wow board was so fast this morning, now its crawling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 enuff of the JB bullchit. he is beyond banter thread eligible. yea seriously. i might as well just pop on TWC and re-type everything Jim Cantore says for you guys. Actually, i think re-typing Cantore's Stories would add more to the discussion than the million identical "JB said" posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Really? Joe Bastardi Meantime, get ready, a shot of climate change propaganda from the arctic is coming to charge south with major early cold,snow/ice What a crappy thing to say by JB. Climate change propaganda? Pretty pathetic and ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Its ridiculous, I just checked out his facebook page, he literally tweets something every 2-3 minutes for the last 4 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Its ridiculous, I just checked out his facebook page, he literally tweets something every 2-3 minutes for the last 4 hours. $$$$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 yea seriously. i might as well just pop on TWC and re-type everything Jim Cantore says for you guys. Actually, i think re-typing Cantore's Stories would add more to the discussion than the million identical "JB said" posts. lol...tru tru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Maybe Jeannie could help..only she could make it snow in Coco Beach in the middle of July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Its ridiculous, I just checked out his facebook page, he literally tweets something every 2-3 minutes for the last 4 hours. I think they are going out via twitter and in that case it is understandable because you can only type out so many characters. So if you have points you want to get across, which apparently he does...that is why they come out the way they do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Today's teleconnections off of the CPC look MUCH better than they have been in the past few days, as well as the 12z ECMWF, GFS, GGEM, and GEFS showing some nice cold in the East in the mid to longer range after the FROPA passes through. The NAO is the most impressive change from yesterday, going down to at least neutral, then negative. PNA goes to negative (although the PNA is a bit more positive than forecasted) but then goes to positive again. The AO goes to neutral/negative territory. The MJO forecast from the GEFS starts to take the OLR anomalies into the COD, which would mean that the MJO would have less of an effect on Global OLR patterns, and would not impact the pattern that much. If it continues to go to the left into Phases 8/1, then we could be in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 He really has gone off the deep end with his disdain towards anyone saying AGW is real. Its ridiculous, I just checked out his facebook page, he literally tweets something every 2-3 minutes for the last 4 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 until the nao/ao charts start verifying at any sort of level....its toilet paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 cue earthlight with a bump of his post about the NAO charts, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Today's teleconnections off of the CPC look MUCH better than they have been in the past few days, as well as the 12z ECMWF, GFS, GGEM, and GEFS showing some nice cold in the East in the mid to longer range after the FROPA passes through. The NAO is the most impressive change from yesterday, going down to at least neutral, then negative. PNA goes to negative (although the PNA is a bit more positive than forecasted) but then goes to positive again. The AO goes to neutral/negative territory. The MJO forecast from the GEFS starts to take the OLR anomalies into the COD, which would mean that the MJO would have less of an effect on Global OLR patterns, and would not impact the pattern that much. If it continues to go to the left into Phases 8/1, then we could be in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 until the nao/ao charts start verifying at any sort of level....its toilet paper. The models have done a terrible job forecasting the NAO and AO, and it really shows in the 7 day means in the forecast right under the top graph with all of the red lines; each representing an ensemble member. I think it's interesting that the teleconnections look more favorable today, after the models started to show colder solutions. I think it will definitely get much colder after the FROPA, but whether that is the pattern changer or not remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 cue earthlight with a bump of his post about the NAO charts, lol. I was just going to post this. He ripped me for posting the NAO map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Call me a hot dog if you will, but I think it's interesting to see the teleconnections trend in our favor today, after the good model runs. I am not saying a pattern change is coming, but it is definitely interesting to look at the recent teleconnection trends. IF they verify (which they may not) then the pattern would definitely look much better during the second half of December. The track record for these models has definitely not been the best, but I think it will be interesting to see if the FROPA is the pattern changer, like the ENS show, and whether they will verify or not, which is the primary reason as to why I posted them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Good news. Looks like arctic outbreak in the plains at day 10? Not sarcastic, BTW. I would be interested in future frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 He really has gone off the deep end with his disdain towards anyone saying AGW is real. I disagree with him, but it's not a topic I get into here. The banter threads are my favorite except when everyone is "winter cancel." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Call me a hot dog if you will, but I think it's interesting to see the teleconnections trend in our favor today, after the good model runs. I am not saying a pattern change is coming, but it is definitely interesting to look at the recent teleconnection trends. IF they verify (which they may not) then the pattern would definitely look much better during the second half of December. The track record for these models has definitely not been the best, but I think it will be interesting to see if the FROPA is the pattern changer, like the ENS show, and whether they will verify or not, which is the primary reason as to why I posted them. lol, those charts are junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 lol, those charts are junk. Tonight ill get my 4 yr old nephew to do an etch-a-sketch and ill take that and superimpose into NAO charts, and i guarantee that the etches verifiy more than that garbage being posted on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 lol, those charts are junk. I agree that their track record has not been that great, but that's not the reason I posted them. The track record for these models has definitely not been the best, but This is: I think it will be interesting to see if the FROPA is the pattern changer, like the ENS show, and whether they will verify or not, which is the primary reason as to why I posted them. I'm not saying they're right or wrong. I think it will be interesting if they are right, which is why I posted them. If they are wrong, then chalk that up as another failure by those ENS forecasts. You simply can't say that this forecast will be wrong because their recent past forecasts have been wrong, as that is a logical fallacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Tonight ill get my 4 yr old nephew to do an etch-a-sketch and ill take that and superimpose into NAO charts, and i guarantee that the etches verifiy more than that garbage being posted on here so you golf? PM me, I am trying to get an outing going, TornadoJay would be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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