snowman21 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 That's pretty telling right there... do you mind running BTV, MVL, and MPV for the same info? I'm curious how we fared up here over the "fall" season. Here are the preliminary numbers... BTV MVL MPV ---------------------------------------------- Nov Dep +5.2 +5.4 +5.4 Fall Avg 52.5 50.1 50.1 Fall Dep +3.6 +3.9 +4.0 Fall Rank 1 1 1 Fall 52.5-2011 50.1-2011 50.1-2011 Top 5 51.6-2001 48.4-2005 49.8-1975 Warmest 51.5-1982 48.2-1999 49.4-1961 Avg-Yr 51.4-1946 48.0-2001 48.9-2005 51.4-2005 47.4-2007 48.3-2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 JB says 83 cold, xxx winter inbound momentarily for December! I'm not seeing this 1983 cold. N plains will get some good cold no doubt, but nothing like '83. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 The problem is the only thing the GFS has forecast correctly over the last 10 days is the date. Im not sure what he means by the end of the run, but i see no such -nao. I see greenland covered in sub 522 thicknesses, and thats generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I'm not seeing this 1983 cold. N plains will get some good cold no doubt, but nothing like '83. I was being sarcastic, some are not being true about what JB is saying, the usual suspects..........he is saying near normal, I would imagine he is going below in the upper midwest where it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 1322699790[/url]' post='1155643']Im not sure what he means by the end of the run, but i see no such -nao. I see greenland covered in sub 522 thicknesses, and thats generous. Raleigh nao indicator turns negative right at the end of the run. Actually almost does. More neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Raleigh nao indicator turns negative right at the end of the run. Actually almost does. More neutral. NGH In my Dana Carvey - George Bush Sr Voice "NOT gonna happen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 http://www.break.com...-motion-2084489 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 It doesn't really matter what the actual NAO number is...if its from a north atlantic ridge trying to nose into SE Greenland or Iceland, it doesn't do much. It can help transport cold air a little further south but it serves as no block for storm systems. The Davis Straight/Baffin Island region is home to the PV for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Raleigh nao indicator turns negative right at the end of the run. Actually almost does. More neutral. Classic case of the hard-data showing a -NAO but the actual upper air pattern showing that it's very weak and/or moving quickly. Look at the heights near Greenland and the Davis Straight. Nope.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 1322701161[/url]' post='1155693']Classic case of the hard-data showing a -NAO but the actual upper air pattern showing that it's very weak and/or moving quickly. Look at the heights near Greenland and the Davis Straight. Nope.. Agreed but the indicator is for the end. Hour 384 and gfs not euro. You can see ridging starting in eastern Greenland. But who cares, it's the gfs day 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Looks like a little upslope love for the Greens, Whites, and maybe even here in the Berks if this thing has enough oomph associated with it. Sometimes these WINDEX things can deliver a nice surprise around here. Yep, I'll never forget the one Ginxxx pointed out to me the first Winter I was on the board. We got smoked and it wasn't well forecast.... except by Ginxxx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thanks to the mods. I wasn't in favor of banter threads at first, but that's where the OT stuff belongs. DT has not issued his 12/1 update yet. We're supposed to have his and HM's (accuweather) Thursday. http://www.wxrisk.com/category/hardcore-weather-analysis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Classic case of the hard-data showing a -NAO but the actual upper air pattern showing that it's very weak and/or moving quickly. Look at the heights near Greenland and the Davis Straight. Nope.. Yep, ridging but no blocking. Typical +AO +NAO Nina Pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard24 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 winter weather is coming next week with snow and cold you dont see it well then join henry . Because he wrong for is dec forecast . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 winter weather is coming next week with snow and cold you dont see it well then join henry . Because he wrong for is dec forecast . . Well then. That's settled. 18z Goofus does look better, but I wouldn't hang my hat on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 winter weather is coming next week with snow and cold you dont see it well then join henry . Because he wrong for is dec forecast . . Yes! Missed you Blizz good to see you back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Daniel Son I'm sorry that you went there. Too many sad parts of that town (Killingly), and Danielson just can't seem to get it's feet off the ground. Seems like a constant depression over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thanks to the mods. I wasn't in favor of banter threads at first, but that's where the OT stuff belongs. DT has not issued his 12/1 update yet. We're supposed to have his and HM's (accuweather) Thursday. http://www.wxrisk.co...ather-analysis/ If DT flips warm I just may end it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Thanks to the mods. I wasn't in favor of banter threads at first, but that's where the OT stuff belongs. DT has not issued his 12/1 update yet. We're supposed to have his and HM's (accuweather) Thursday. http://www.wxrisk.com/category/hardcore-weather-analysis/ Why would anyone give s sh it about Margusity? The man us incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I wonder if he became the long range guy at accu-wx when JB left? If he did ....tough for their clients. LOL Why would anyone give s sh it about Margusity? The man us incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I see JB is showing Dec/Jan 1984-85 as a possible analog... I wonder if he became the long range guy at accu-wx when JB left? If he did ....tough for their clients. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob40 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Actually it's a fella named Pastelok. He calls a spade a spade unlike a couple of their other mets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I see JB is showing Dec/Jan 1984-85 as a possible analog... At this rate he's gonna run out of years. 1984 had an epic SE ridge in December, I know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 yep...jb is going January 85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 LOL, Midlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 LOL, Midlo http://www.americanw...ost__p__1155542 At first I thought you were laughing at the shape of the depiction in the West, the I realized the forecast did a complete 180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 At first I thought you were laughing at the shape of the depiction in the West, the I realized the forecast did a complete 180. It was more from Mido's photoshops. A lot of people are scrambling this month it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 LOL, Midlo lol, Northeast in the sahara dessert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 It really blows that we have nothing to talk about the last week or so with the NAM. Everything of any interest is so far beyond it, we just ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 LOL, Midlo http://www.americanw...ost__p__1155542 @ rollercoaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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