CoastalWx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 "Mixes to rain" count as wintry, too in my book. It's a subjective term no doubt. When I mean "wintry" I'm thinking a substantial portion of the precip is snow or ice. More "milder" solutions are a brief mix to rain or simply a Lakes Cutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 BOX has pulled any mention of snow for tonight. WINDEX cancel...(not that it had much shot to begin with...) edit - that is just for my point and click... still some wording in the AFD IT IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO WEAKEN. A BRIEF SPRINKLE OR FLURRY /LATE/ CANNOT BE RULED OUT...BUT THE FRONT IS EXPECTED TO PASS OVER THE REGION WITH LITTLE FANFARE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 BOX has pulled any mention of snow for tonight. WINDEX cancel...(not that it had much shot to begin with...) edit - that is just for my point and click... still some wording in the AFD IT IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO WEAKEN. A BRIEF SPRINKLE OR FLURRY /LATE/ CANNOT BE RULED OUT...BUT THE FRONT IS EXPECTED TO PASS OVER THE REGION WITH LITTLE FANFARE. I wouldn't be shocked of you see some flurries anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Well the op GFS and op Euro are world's apart for days 7-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Pretty funky radar over Western Ny with the weak low moving over the lakes, Shows as RN over the lake and SN on either side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I don't think the GFS is as bad as people are saying in the 6-10 day. I don't see the euro op as much better. What was that comparison someone (Sam? Earthlight?) posted the other day that had them side by side. I think it was put out by the Euro folks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 What was that comparison someone (Sam? Earthlight?) posted the other day that had them side by side. I think it was put out by the Euro folks... The GFS has had bad verification in the 5-6 day timeframe...and I think a lot of it was due to that cutoff in the southeast that gave Memphis snow. The GFS should bounce back a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 What was that comparison someone (Sam? Earthlight?) posted the other day that had them side by side. I think it was put out by the Euro folks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 If I lived in the interior and NNE I would have higher hopes too. sorry if this outs me as an idiot but after 4 years I still never understand what is considered the "interior". Is that say 10 mi. from the coast? 50+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Well the NAM squishes the evil ridge enough at 84 hours for most of Upstate NY to be under 0C at 850 mb.... My guess is that a wave pushes that back north past H84, but we take whatever we can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hmm..so the euro overall has done better than the GFS. It seemed like for a while, the euro wasn't handling the PAC all that well. But then again, op solutions that far out vary so much, especially when it comes to your backyard weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 sorry if this outs me as an idiot but after 4 years I still never understand what is considered the "interior". Is that say 10 mi. from the coast? 50+? Well again...it's subjective. I'm referring to areas like central and western mass on northward. You probably could include nrn and nw CT too and int ne mass. When you say "interior" this far out...it is a very broad brushed area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Well again...it's subjective. I'm referring to areas like central and western mass on northward. You probably could include nrn and nw CT too and int ne mass. When you say "interior" this far out...it is a very broad brushed area. Thanks for clearing that up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I consider interior anything away from the imediate coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 I think the subtle signs will grow more obvious of a significant change in ou rpqttern beginning around 12/10. The old pattern may fight back but by around 12/25 it should be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I consider interior anything away from the imediate coast Def true in Maine and even NH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 The interior is anyone 20 miles or more inland. The distant interior is GC on north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 Well the NAM squishes the evil ridge enough at 84 hours for most of Upstate NY to be under 0C at 850 mb.... My guess is that a wave pushes that back north past H84, but we take whatever we can get. I just looked and ti me the 0C 850 line Is on a line stretching from roughly Ithaca to Herkimer to CON to PWM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 The interior is anyone 20 miles or more inland. The distant interior is GC on north Well I don't consider int se mass the "interior". You need more clarification than that. A rough idea imo is like from LWM-ORH-TOL on w-nw. There isn't a specific definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 495 and 84 north and west is what I consider interior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 495 and 84 north and west is what I consider interior Yeah that's pretty much what I have outlined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 495 and 84 north and west is what I consider interior This. I consider outside of rt 128 and N of the pike as interior cp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Well, It is different up here as we have Imediate coast, Interior, Foothills and Mountains, I guess i would be cosiderd in the Coasta Plain if they used that term up here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Geographically ...but then elevation is a pretty big factor. Look at the HV ...sea level to Albany. I bet Kevin gets as much snow as along the Hudson in downtown Albany. This. I consider outside of rt 128 and N of the pike as interior cp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Join the fun in my OT topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Pages of discussing the definition of the "interior" ... that's all I need to see to know we're not getting snow anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Join the fun in my OT topic. There is some real sharp knives in that thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Getting back on track....LOL the 12z NAM at 84h is way weswt compared to the gfs at 96h at 0z...probably an amped up solution like the EURO/UKIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 The 00z Euro ensembles in the long range past about D12 or 13 look kind of like an electrical bath pattern. Most of the CONUS is above avg. Hopefully its breaking down the western ridging too quickly. I'm with Scooter that the D9-10 time frame def has potential for some type of winter threat...we'll just hope it doesn't get too amped up into a cutter. But that time period has been on the radar for awhile looking at the general pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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