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December moving forward...pattern disco


weathafella

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The GFS op FWIW....(and it may not be much) I think has been beating the euro in the 6-10 day. It's like the euro is catching up to the GFS. The euro today is a lot more like the GFS last night. Something to think about going forward.

completely anecdotal, but i'm finding the euro to be wildly erratic in the long range right now. and not just erratic, also extreme.

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Bears repeating with an all out torch Dec 2-8.

Torch has been the way to go. When in doubt go warm.

Just bustin ya. Hey I posted an 08 map a while back and damn if it doesn"t look like we are heading down that path. -EPO LL cold seems the way to go. We will need a flattening of the pig arse ridge a tad, some undercutting and we are gold. Ray says no way but we shall see, seen worse setups first week Of Dec pan out sweet midmonth.

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completely anecdotal, but i'm finding the euro to be wildly erratic in the long range right now. and not just erratic, also extreme.

Well I just went back and looked at the run from 12z/23 and the euro op is defintely closer to what we are having now, but it seems like after day 8, it can go nuts. I guess I can't claim a winner and loser going forward just yet, but it does seem erratic. Seems very quick to flood areas in the west with Pacific air in one run, only to look like the GFS 12 hrs later.

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yeah that's entirely possible. i don't know. and the reality is, the "numbers" might say otherwise, but at least for the CONUS, and this region, i feel like it's had a bad run of late in the long range. more so with just wild run-to-run shifts.

I haven't thought the GFS was much better..because I remember the GFS bringing the serious cold in the northeast and the lakes. As I was posting earlier, I think that ridiculous +AO may be playing havoc with the models later in the medium range.

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yeah that's entirely possible. i don't know. and the reality is, the "numbers" might say otherwise, but at least for the CONUS, and this region, i feel like it's had a bad run of late in the long range. more so with just wild run-to-run shifts.

What is disconcerting and probably true with all models is we are getting delayed and muted signals every day. The Euro weeklies seem better than the OP, Ens 8-14.

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completely anecdotal, but i'm finding the euro to be wildly erratic in the long range right now. and not just erratic, also extreme.

I'm not sure if there is any statistical data on it but I'd imagine the Euro may have a tendency to perform worse in a -PNA pattern or even a +PNA pattern where the ridge is centered more in the GOA than on the West Coast because of its problem cutting off disturbances in the SW. One thing is for sure, the Euro has a man crush on developing cutters in the long range which never verify. You can usually bank on the Euro being right when the GFS shows a storm as well but when the Euro shows a cutter and the GFS shows nothing or just a weak system I find more often than not that the GFS winds up being right.

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Hard to remember a year when santa anas were blowing when we did not get some decent winter weather within a week

Another round of strong winds was expected Thursday afternoon, producing gusts of 60 to 80 mph, according to the National Weather Service. The peak gust was 97 mph, reported at Whitaker Peak on Wednesday night. On Thursday morning, the highest recorded gusts were also at Whitaker Peak at 61 mph.

Pasadena, Sierra Madre and other foothill communities of the San Gabriel Valley were the hardest hit by windstorm.

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