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December moving forward...pattern disco


weathafella

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Could def be an ice threat in this setup. I'd have to think we'd be a bit colder than it shows when we have a 1047mb high just north of the NE/Quebec border with arctic source region.

That storm on the 11th or so has threatened to go west, but that one def poses some sort of a threat, especially if the euro is even off by a little bit out west.

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I was thinking ...ice is a threat with that kind of cold being delivered to Canada and the upper flow fighting it's ability to bleed down. But it may make more progress at the low levels - hence ice.

Will and I were joking a couple of weeks ago about how someone is going to get ice in this pattern. With that cold in Canada and se ridge...could be heavy heavy generators for someone in the northeast or Canada at some point.

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I don't know if i would call it lucky, But yeah, It certainly has that look

I was thinking ...ice is a threat with that kind of cold being delivered to Canada and the upper flow fighting it's ability to bleed down. But it may make more progress at the low levels - hence ice.

At this point I think 99% of us would crave a damaging icestorm

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Will and I were joking a couple of weeks ago about how someone is going to get ice in this pattern. With that cold in Canada and se ridge...could be heavy heavy generators for someone in the northeast or Canada at some point.

I hope that system out west gets crunched in the confluent flow as it heads east...that would mean less SE ridging getting pumped up and obviously more cold for us....and a SWFE that would probably be snow.

I like the cold in Canada a lot this run but we are in danger of a lakes cutter if there is too much phasing out west. I'd like to see some flattening of the heights in SE Canada on future runs. That 1045+ high though to our north is a good sign...it probably was underplaying the cold that thing would deliver.

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I hope that system out west gets crunched in the confluent flow as it heads east...that would mean less SE ridging getting pumped up and obviously more cold for us....and a SWFE that would probably be snow.

I like the cold in Canada a lot this run but we are in danger of a lakes cutter if there is too much phasing out west. I'd like to see some flattening of the heights in SE Canada on future runs. That 1045+ high though to our north is a good sign...it probably was underplaying the cold that thing would deliver.

Yeah that would be a nice change. The ridge seems like it has some staying power I hope it goes away as well, but the cutter idea is there.

But still, it's pretty far out and we sometimes see that cold bleed a little more to the south than modeled, so something more winter like is certainly possible.

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Yeah that would be a nice change. The ridge seems like it has some staying power I hope it goes away as well, but the cutter idea is there.

But still, it's pretty far out and we sometimes see that cold bleed a little more to the south than modeled, so something more winter like is certainly possible.

I'm semi-optimistic with what is shown. Models tend to over play the cold when we have a +EPO and then when we have a good -EPO and cross polar flow, they will often under estimate the ability for the cold air to get transported south and east. Hopefully that bias works in our favor this time.

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