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December 2011 General Disc/Obs


Ellinwood

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The NAM inches a little better. I find it interesting that of the GFS ensemble members that I can see, only the operational and 2 members didn't give my area measureable precip on Friday night. Two of them looked really juicy (comparatively). May mean nothing. We'll find out in a couple of days.

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I know that we are only trying to be optimistic, but even if that inches north, does that really look like snow? Maybe just spit or sprinkles?

I agree with this, here is what the GFS 18z profiles supported for Richmond, VA. Places further north have profiles that support snow if precip rates cooperate.

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the nam might just be playing games but the sys has some moisture it seems either way. if you can get good rates the northern end could probably be snow.. euro went south at 12z. i guess it's at least slightly compelling but need a lot in favor still. rather have precip in that spot at this range in most cases tho.

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Euro is still meh on the FRI night event....maybe a flizzard for some southern burbs?

Euro ensemble mean sure doesn't like the euro solution for xmas. Even the euro looks like it has a weak low over the oh valley at 216 hrs and then brings in the cold air at least on the crude version so I have my doubts about it.

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12z NAM QPF field nudged north again (I think.. re the 0.25" field) but sharp cutoff north of EZF. Most of this is early Sat morning, so unless you are up after midnight you won't see much if anything north of EZF. 42 hr sim radar shows meager returns over DCA, so flurries or maybe a light snow shower

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12z NAM QPF field nudged north again (I think.. re the 0.25" field) but sharp cutoff north of EZF. Most of this is early Sat morning, so unless you are up after midnight you won't see much if anything north of EZF. 42 hr sim radar shows meager returns over DCA, so flurries or maybe a light snow shower

I think that's about it but people seem to be snow starved and are looking for any fix.

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I think that's about it but people seem to be snow starved and are looking for any fix.

Yes we are :lol:

Hey, flurries or a light snow shower are better than nothing. NAM didn't show anything for Sunday when I checked. So overnight Friday into early Saturday is our best chance for any white till likely Christmas-time

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12z GFS is faster and def a bit warmer than the 12z NAM IMO.... most of the precip is rain except for a few flurries on the northern end as the 0c 850 line is in C VA and most of the QPF is in S VA at 39. Well more like a whiff for anyone north of EZF and even there is pushing it for a flurry :lol:

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12z GFS is faster and def a bit warmer than the 12z NAM IMO.... most of the precip is rain except for a few flurries on the northern end as the 0c 850 line is in C VA and most of the QPF is in S VA at 39. Well more like a whiff for anyone north of EZF and even there is pushing it for a flurry laugh.png

Even the NAM only has the surface temp at +3C at 06Z and a littel higher than that at 09Z so it's not even a sure thing that it would be snow on the colder model, it certainly wouldn't stick.

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Even the NAM only has the surface temp at +3C at 06Z and a littel higher than that at 09Z so it's not even a sure thing that it would be snow on the colder model, it certainly wouldn't stick.

True, I didn't check that. Still wouldn't even amount to much anyway, just would be nice to see a few snowflakes :(

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