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Weekend storm - Grasping for straws


Ian

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Just looking at the evolution of this, the thing that bothers me is that this is becoming more and more dependent on the northern jet. There really is very little southern branch involvement and thus we are waiting for the northern branch to phase and the storm to bomb... that means the track of the h5 energy in the northern branch becomes the key and most of the models, even the 12z euro, tracks that energy north of us. The old rule is you need the H5 energy to track over or south of you to really get significant snows...

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The GFS is strung out and scattered--nothing like the consolidated Euro. In this type of set-up, we really need the storm to blossom to our SSW and then up the coast. So far, only today's 12Z Euro showed that scenario. The GFS hasn't been promising for us for a while. Hopefully the Euro is more correct with its storm development inland over Georgia. Otherwise, if development is delayed, this is OTS or a SNE special.

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66hrs away and this is what the GFS gives us? I'll take it considering the GFS biases

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What a nightmare. Tomorrow being Friday and all, I imagine mets will have to signal one way or another by midday tomorrow before the masses tune out whether people should expect to see snow or no snow on Sunday...All eyes on the Euro, but curious how people think the TV mets will handle it if there is still all this model chaos after the Euro runs.

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What a nightmare. Tomorrow being Friday and all, I imagine mets will have to signal one way or another by midday tomorrow before the masses tune out whether people should expect to see snow or no snow on Sunday...All eyes on the Euro, but curious how people think the TV mets will handle it if there is still all this model chaos after the Euro runs.

They will probably downplay as always unless a very strong signal comes in.

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Yes, but there is a pretty fierce competition this year in Washington among the mets, both online and Television, over winter weather. Part of it stems from last year, but also Capital Weather Gang has introduced a new element that is adding pressure for TV mets to be on top of even slightest potential for snow. There was a big article about it by the Washington Post ombudsman a few days ago. Not only is it pressure from blogs, more and more people get their weather from friends on Facebook and others who just read models. It won't be a good start to the season if one station ignores a threat only to scramble Saturday evening to try to get out the word out that a 5 inch snow is about to screw up the last Sunday of XMAS shopping.

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Yes, but there is a pretty fierce competition this year in Washington among the mets, both online and Television, over winter weather. Part of it stems from last year, but also Capital Weather Gang has introduced a new element that is adding pressure for TV mets to be on top of even slightest potential for snow. There was a big article about it by the Washington Post ombudsman a few days ago. Not only is it pressure from blogs, more and more people get their weather from friends on Facebook and others who just read models. It won't be a good start to the season if one station ignores a threat only to scramble Saturday evening to try to get out the word out that a 5 inch snow is about to screw up the last Sunday of XMAS shopping.

This is an interesting point, and something that also seems to be happening down here in the Richmond area. Many people are now going to DT for their weather needs, whether it be via his website, Facebook, or radio interview. The Times-Dispatch had a great write-up on him last year, which has probably lead to more anxiety amongst local mets.

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This is an interesting point, and something that also seems to be happening down here in the Richmond area. Many people are now going to DT for their weather needs, whether it be via his website, Facebook, or radio interview. The Times-Dispatch had a great write-up on him last year, which has probably lead to more anxiety amongst local mets.

This is definitely true, but there's more DT could be doing to further it and increase the pressure on those guys. I think just combining his audio and graphics into a video file that he could really illustrate what he's talking about (and, perhaps, even cut a shorter one that's dumbed down for those who don't care about the -NAO just want to know how much it's going to snow), etc.

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I hope the euro keeps hope alive but the changes in how this is evolving are not in our favor. The runs of the GFS that gave our area a significant event a few days ago involved a different storm evolution that seems off the table now. It seems the main player to spark the storm development is now going to have to be a northern branch feature. That feature has been coming in further north the last few runs on all models. That is bad news for our area. This is taking on a much more typical Nina pattern late coastal development type storm type. I hope I am wrong but that seems to be the direction this is heading. Oh well... on the bright side I think snow in NYC on Sunday might mess up the Eagles chances against the Giants and I am very confident they will smack the crap out of NY as long as there is no crazy weather to interfere with destiny so maybe this is for the best.

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Yeah, this one really is over.

And there's not much to track after this miss.

Not sure I believe what any model says at this point about the future. I would like to hope we could get a few clipper ops for the next couple of weeks since that seems to be what Nina's are all about for our area. I think that's possible and if it is as cold as it has been at least the stuff will hang around. I would love a monster to track again but my inherent pessimism will serve me well this winter so any snow will be a good thing for me. I have about 2" on the ground right now and temps in the teens...this stuff may last all the way to Christmas in some form and FOR ME...that will be just lovely. Way too many Christmas times in the past with 50's and rain.

Winter 10-11...it ain't like last year it's like every other year.

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