wx4life Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Thank you wx4life I have never seen someone so happy when nauseous Well, that's one part I could have done without!!My firstt one I was soooo sick! The doctor started telling me to gain weight! I don't hear that anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 statistically speaking when was the last "year without a winter" in the SE. figure of speech obviously but i remember a few shorts in early jan winters as a kid in late 70s, early 80s? My first year teaching was 98-99 and we missed no days from school due to snow. I believe every year since we have had three or more snow days. My memory may be a little fuzzy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 My first year teaching was 98-99 and we missed no days from school due to snow. I believe every year since we have had three or more snow days. My memory may be a little fuzzy though. Teaching tends to do that to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Guess it depends on what you consider a fail. We typically don't get a lot of sow in December to begin with. I wonder why that is ? December is colder than February on average for many locations. Why is snow more common in February than December ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 definitely something to watch for our neck of the woods! Sure like that look @ 276 Millz, at-least in terms of the surface. UL are a cluster, really unfavorable overall to get some winter-type going, no real Arctic high crashing down on the backside, 50/50 displaced to the sw and around 1000mb, but a Gulf low/southern slider nonetheless. Odds are if the threat materializes, it is going to trend warmer. GFS cold bias at this range is noted, and without the players just noted, another RN event. I mentioned in the pattern change thread that the 16-20th period has potential, not talking about the Lakes cutter around the 15th, after that. We need a solid low-mid 1030's HP in central TX/OK, and that crap in SE Canada in the 980 range, parked a couple hundred miles due north of ME to make it happen. Still very interested though, most of the major indices have inflection points around these dates, and some long range rumblings, of our first true GL this winter, and a southern slider to boot. OT/Banter/Annual Donation Drive: As much as I wish it would, the board does not operate for free. I know Christmas is just around the corner, funds are tight, and the economy is shaky. However, any folks out there with the means please consider a donation. Hell, if we can run brick for of the year every other post in order to get the vote, I am calling the SE crew out on this one in order to help American reach its goal. Unsure how long the drive will go, maybe for another month or two. Wow has a thread up in the info sub about what the costs are, and projects underway. Minum donation is 10 bucks in order to get these cool gold coins under your name and remove all adds. If you can, please consider a donation. This community has meant a lot to us over the years, and it is only fair to allow it to continue to grow, and prosper. - Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCStateMMY Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 statistically speaking when was the last "year without a winter" in the SE. figure of speech obviously but i remember a few shorts in early jan winters as a kid in late 70s, early 80s? 05-06 in Central NC was pretty bad. No measurable snow from December1, 2005 to February 28, 2006: http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KRDU/2005/12/1/CustomHistory.html?dayend=28&monthend=2&yearend=2006&req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kanc2001 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I remember Dec,back in the late 70's and early 80,s ,not having a lot of winter but Jan and especially Feb produced great snowstorms. Off topic but why do I have a warn status on my signature and how do I get the removed? we all do as long as there is no color in the line you are all set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Ugh why do this to you/us I would be fine with a torch all winter if I can just get a repeat of Mar 1980.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 If that would have verified, we would have had 2 feet of snow, at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 That was a hell of a storm to track. I was so glad I had that week off and could help do PBP for almost everyone run of the models! Matthew East was also honking on it when it first showed up on the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I wonder why that is ? December is colder than February on average for many locations. Why is snow more common in February than December ? This is even more interesting when you consider that Feb. is ~10% shorter than Dec. 1) Despite the surface being slightly colder in Dec. than in Feb. as a whole for many SE locations, the upper atmosphere (say from ~850 mb and up) appears to be colder on average in Feb. than it is in Dec. due to a lag of when it is the coldest at upper levels. Feb. MAY even be slightly colder than Jan. at some upper levels. By the way, note that even March has had a good bit more snow than Dec. in recent decades at KATL. Also, March is very likely colder than Nov. at upper levels. 2) For KATL, itself, avg. rainfall is 3.82" in Dec. vs. a somewhat wetter 4.68" in Feb. despite only 28 days in Feb. 3) My gut tells me that low enough latitude Miller A lows are more common in Feb. than in Dec. The average stormtrack, overall, in Feb. may actually be lower in latitude vs. Dec. That likely ties into items #1 and 2, above. The vast majority of KATL major snows (based on records going back to the 1870's) have been associated with Miller A's that generally develop off of ~ S TX, nove mainly WNW, and then ultimately cross land somewhere between FL Panhandle/ far south GA and central FL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoWeatherman Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Nothing else is going on so I'd thought I repost a picture from March of 1983 of ULL snow SOUTH of Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoWeatherman Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I wasn't paying attention and almost missed my first real "fantasy" GFS snow for MBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Sure like that look @ 276 Millz, at-least in terms of the surface. UL are a cluster, really unfavorable overall to get some winter-type going, no real Arctic high crashing down on the backside, 50/50 displaced to the sw and around 1000mb, but a Gulf low/southern slider nonetheless. Odds are if the threat materializes, it is going to trend warmer. GFS cold bias at this range is noted, and without the players just noted, another RN event. I mentioned in the pattern change thread that the 16-20th period has potential, not talking about the Lakes cutter around the 15th, after that. We need a solid low-mid 1030's HP in central TX/OK, and that crap in SE Canada in the 980 range, parked a couple hundred miles due north of ME to make it happen. Still very interested though, most of the major indices have inflection points around these dates, and some long range rumblings, of our first true GL this winter, and a southern slider to boot. OT/Banter/Annual Donation Drive: As much as I wish it would, the board does not operate for free. I know Christmas is just around the corner, funds are tight, and the economy is shaky. However, any folks out there with the means please consider a donation. Hell, if we can run brick for of the year every other post in order to get the vote, I am calling the SE crew out on this one in order to help American reach its goal. Unsure how long the drive will go, maybe for another month or two. Wow has a thread up in the info sub about what the costs are, and projects underway. Minum donation is 10 bucks in order to get these cool gold coins under your name and remove all adds. If you can, please consider a donation. This community has meant a lot to us over the years, and it is only fair to allow it to continue to grow, and prosper. - Chris Chris, You are right times are tough & it is almost X-Mas. That being said for myself personally I can't really put a price on the enjoyment & info this board supplies me with! I could only afford the min. but at less than $0.03 a day I feel like it's a great bargin. Many thanks to the admin., mods, & especially the SE crew! Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I wasn't paying attention and almost missed my first real "fantasy" GFS snow for MBY. Interesting. And it's only 10 days away! OK, 9 days now. I'm not very optomistic, though. I just read Matthew East's blog for today and he seemed more optomistic about this winter and even the second half of December. I just don't see it happening. I think this winter will be a dud as far as snow goes around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Interesting. And it's only 10 days away! OK, 9 days now. I'm not very optomistic, though. I just read Matthew East's blog for today and he seemed more optomistic about this winter and even the second half of December. I just don't see it happening. I think this winter will be a dud as far as nsow goes around here. I think every winter is a dud as far as nsow goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Any scientific reason why? Or just gut "weenie" feeling? Interesting. And it's only 10 days away! OK, 9 days now. I'm not very optomistic, though. I just read Matthew East's blog for today and he seemed more optomistic about this winter and even the second half of December. I just don't see it happening. I think this winter will be a dud as far as nsow goes around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Any scientific reason why? Or just gut "weenie" feeling? My weenie sense is tingling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnweathernut Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Any scientific reason why? Or just gut "weenie" feeling? Come on, it's BRICK................never any science. He's all weenie, but we love him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 So how reasonable is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DixieBlizzard Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 So how reasonable is this? Shift that a little bit further east, it seems completely "reasonable" to me! (not likely, but reasonable!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherfide Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Long range looks extremely bad for rain chances and absolutely no cold near me at all. I need a break from this for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbjr Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Yup. Yesterday the models were hinting toward a little cooler; today they've gone the other way. With all this model fluctuation and inconsistency, something must be brewing upstream that the models are having difficulty sorting out an/or processing. I am not qualified to even guess if that may be, or if it is "good" or "bad" for the next few weeks as far as our deep SE "winter" goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Long range looks extremely bad for rain chances and absolutely no cold near me at all. I need a break from this for awhile. Kyle, watch that movie on the change thread. It'll cheer you up. If nothing else we get some rain if it works out. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buckeyefan1 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Kyle, watch that movie on the change thread. It'll cheer you up. If nothing else we get some rain if it works out. T I'll take every drop . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Don't know if this has been posted but here is some chilling footage of the Japanese tsunami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Wow,............ beyond wow!! I've often wondered what was going on in those cars getting swept away. Thank goodness for air tight construction in the auto industry. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Well, well. Welcome back AmericanWx forum. Foothills, BTW, great article on the potential a big storm this winter. I finally was able to read it - been a busy week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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