December General Banter

[burgertime]

On most of the videos iv'e seen of him, the southeast was mentioned. If he is such a bad meteorologist, then why is he so successful? If he busted so many times, then why would people not simply unsubscribe from him making his site a loss? His site is still up and I still see him sometimes on CNN and Fox News.

I'm probably not much older than you but you'll learn that tons of idiots stay in business simply because they tell people what they want to hear. A lot of consumers are like sheep, you tell them what to do and they do it. That is how he makes money, he has name recognition and plays to his consumers it's really marketing 101.

Also if you don't have access to his numbers you really don't know how well he is doing. I seriously doubt he is doing as well as he was on Accuweather since they had a much larger pool to pull from of subscribers.

Yep he was spot on for the SE last winter..

I believe he also busted badly on a early December storm last year.

By the way the LR isn't a big deal...but it's just one example of a bust.

[SN_Lover]

I'm probably not much older than you but you'll learn that tons of idiots stay in business simply because they tell people what they want to hear. A lot of consumers are like sheep, you tell them what to do and they do it. That is how he makes money, he has name recognition and plays to his consumers it's really marketing 101.

Also if you don't have access to his numbers you really don't know how well he is doing. I seriously doubt he is doing as well as he was on Accuweather since they had a much larger pool to pull from of subscribers.

Yep he was spot on for the SE last winter..

I believe he also busted badly on a early December storm last year.

By the way the LR isn't a big deal...but it's just one example of a bust.

Like I said before, are you perfect? No. We are all imperfect. We all have made mistakes. Watch that video I posted in the pattern change thread for perspective on that.

Edit: video got removed, here is the link to it http://yo utu.be/TGyAIY3oJmc

[burgertime]

Like I said before, are you perfect? No. We are all imperfect. We all have made mistakes. Watch that video I posted in the pattern change thread for perspective on that.

Edit: video got removed, here is the link to it http://yo utu.be/TGyAIY3oJmc

I saw that video awhile ago via Reddit. Just because some MET students made some cute video also doesn't mean that they should all get a pass when they screw up or that no mediocre people get MET degrees. It isn't about being perfect no one claims any met here is perfect. It's about how he makes claims. Why is that almost every respected MET here says pretty much the same thing about him? Explain that one. Are all the professionals wrong here and JB is right? I'll just to ignore 90% of JB's rhetoric and pay attention to METS in this sub forum who know what the hell they are talking about for my area.

[SN_Lover]

I saw that video awhile ago via Reddit. Just because some (1)MET students made some cute video also doesn't mean that they should all get a pass when they screw up or that no mediocre people get MET degrees. It isn't about being perfect no one claims any met here is perfect. It's about how he makes claims. Why is that (2)almost every respected MET here says pretty much the same thing about him? Explain that one. Are all the professionals wrong here and JB is right? I'll just to ignore 90% of JB's rhetoric and pay attention to METS in this sub forum who (3)know what the hell they are talking about for my area.

(1)That was Director, Weather Information Center @ Millersville University , Eric J. Horst who made that statement about getting the forecast wrong in the video not a student. (2)That's a pretty bold statement. (3)I wish I had the amount of wisdom/knowledge you do because apparently you have more than Joe (sarcasm).

[POWERSTROKE]

Like I said before, are you perfect? No. We are all imperfect. We all have made mistakes. Watch that video I posted in the pattern change thread for perspective on that.

Edit: video got removed, here is the link to it http://yo utu.be/TGyAIY3oJmc

I have listened to JB for 20 years going back to his days on WSJS here in winston-salem. I still have him all weatherbell as I like to listen to him, when he was on wsjs he was very accurate. HOWEVER since he left he has busted that last 3-4 winters. He missed last Christmas big time and then when it did snow he said the Carolinas had a little snow. We had 7 inches here thats not little for NC. I like him but if he gets this year right it will be a shock. I watched his video the other day and he said he thought we wouldn't have been as chilly as we were a week ago nad now says extreme cold coming in January. In November he said after December there will be no winer in the Southeast but December would be cold. So where has he been accurate??? When he was on wsjs he was extremely accurate. I will put Robert against him any day of the week for our area.

[DaculaWeather]

And on a lighter note... watch this video, the best part starts about halfway.

http://youtu.be/lMzsBqyptMA

[AcworthWx]

I have listened to JB for 20 years going back to his days on WSJS here in winston-salem. I still have him all weatherbell as I like to listen to him, when he was on wsjs he was very accurate. HOWEVER since he left he has busted that last 3-4 winters. He missed last Christmas big time and then when it did snow he said the Carolinas had a little snow. We had 7 inches here thats not little for NC. I like him but if he gets this year right it will be a shock. I watched his video the other day and he said he thought we wouldn't have been as chilly as we were a week ago nad now says extreme cold coming in January. In November he said after December there will be no winer in the Southeast but December would be cold. So where has he been accurate??? When he was on wsjs he was extremely accurate. I will put Robert against him any day of the week for our area.

This deserves a slow .

[SN_Lover]

I have listened to JB for 20 years going back to his days on WSJS here in winston-salem. I still have him all weatherbell as I like to listen to him, when he was on wsjs he was very accurate. HOWEVER since he left he has busted that last 3-4 winters. He missed last Christmas big time and then when it did snow he said the Carolinas had a little snow. We had 7 inches here thats not little for NC. I like him but if he gets this year right it will be a shock. I watched his video the other day and he said he thought we wouldn't have been as chilly as we were a week ago nad now says extreme cold coming in January. In November he said after December there will be no winer in the Southeast but December would be cold. So where has he been accurate??? When he was on wsjs he was extremely accurate. I will put Robert against him any day of the week for our area.

JB's thought's are changing probably because of the stratosphere warming. I don't think that there was any way someone could have foreseen that during November.

[pcbjr]

Can someone wake me when it gets cold?

Thanks!

[burgertime]

(1)That was Director, Weather Information Center @ Millersville University , Eric J. Horst who made that statement about getting the forecast wrong in the video not a student. (2)That's a pretty bold statement. (3)I wish I had the amount of wisdom/knowledge you do because apparently you have more than Joe (sarcasm).

Making statements like this just shows you're simply arguing for the sake of arguing. 1. The director was interviewed he didn't make the video. Thus why he was credited as just a thanks and not producer or anything else. So again two met students made a cute video about what it takes to get a degree. It doesn't blanket all METS as uber intelligent super beings who should never be criticized.

2. It's a bold statement because it's true. Go on the general weather forum and make a poll. Or just ask METS only to chime in their opinion of JB and watch the hilarity ensue.

3. lolz are you serious? When did I claim I had more knowledge than JB? It takes wisdom to choose Robert (foothills), Mr. Bob, Matthew East, Jeffrey Crum, Jeremy(eyewall), MotoWx, DeltaDog(now up north), Brandon and Allan Huffman and numerous others I'm forgetting whose JOB it is to focus on the SOUTHEAST over JB? Those are just the red/yellow taggers let alone the great hobbyists. Here is my wisdom, he has consistently been wrong for this area while they have been right. I know that's an amazing concept to comprehend but when someone has consistently been wrong, and others have been consistently right I'll take the ones who are consistently right.

[frazdaddy]

That is an amazing car. It handles like the SLR.

[Isopycnic]

My wife and I were discussing last night that the grass needs to be mowed again and how I could not get to it until next weekend. We then made the realization that I would be mowing the grass on Christmas eve. LOL

I just mowed the grass 3 weeks ago to clean up the leaves.

[LithiaWx]

Can someone tell me where I could find a list of record high minimum temperatures for Atlanta in particular?

[griteater]

Can someone tell me where I could find a list of record high minimum temperatures for Atlanta in particular?

You can get it from FFC here - http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=ffc

[LithiaWx]

You can get it from FFC here - http://www.nws.noaa....cis.php?wfo=ffc

Perfect, thank you sir.

[Blue Ridge]

In summary:

A select few members still have a JB infatuation after all these years...

Posts are moved to banter from anyone who dares to challenge those with their heads up...yeah, I'm not even going to go there...

Widre hasn't been around for a few days, and our weenie population couldn't be happier!...

And finally, those portraying the truth about the dismal pattern the East is in are continually met with pitchforks and torches.

Looking forward to a great winter.

[LithiaWx]

In summary:

A select few members still have a JB infatuation after all these years...

Posts are moved to banter from anyone who dares to challenge those with their heads up...yeah, I'm not even going to go there...

Widre hasn't been around for a few days, and our weenie population couldn't be happier!...

And finally, those portraying the truth about the dismal pattern the East is in are continually met with pitchforks and torches.

Looking forward to a great winter.

[SN_Lover]

Making statements like this just shows you're simply arguing for the sake of arguing. 1. The director was interviewed he didn't make the video. Thus why he was credited as just a thanks and not producer or anything else. So again two met students made a cute video about what it takes to get a degree. It doesn't blanket all METS as uber intelligent super beings who should never be criticized.

2. It's a bold statement because it's true. Go on the general weather forum and make a poll. Or just ask METS only to chime in their opinion of JB and watch the hilarity ensue.

3. lolz are you serious? When did I claim I had more knowledge than JB? It takes wisdom to choose Robert (foothills), Mr. Bob, Matthew East, Jeffrey Crum, Jeremy(eyewall), MotoWx, DeltaDog(now up north), Brandon and Allan Huffman and numerous others I'm forgetting whose JOB it is to focus on the SOUTHEAST over JB? Those are just the red/yellow taggers let alone the great hobbyists. Here is my wisdom, he has consistently been wrong for this area while they have been right. I know that's an amazing concept to comprehend but when someone has consistently been wrong, and others have been consistently right I'll take the ones who are consistently right.

(1) Yes, but he was the one that said that criticizing a MET who sometimes get's the forecast wrong is ridiculous. We are not perfect.

(2) so you have statistics to back your hypothesis up? If not, than im just going to take that as a opinion

(3) Yes, Because, you criticize his forecasting methods.

[Northern Foothills Snowman]

Pretty nice upper low develops in the SE just after Christmas on the 6z GFS.

Yes, it's 264 hours and yes it's too far north to do much good for any of us.

But it sure beats the debate over just how terrible JB is.....(and make no mistake, he is God-awful)

If you don't like or trust JB''s forecast just don't look at them .He's not forcing you or anyone else to read them.From listening to him in the past he says look for yourself if you don't believe what he aying. unlike the AGW crowd which says the debate is over when there never was one.I'd put JB up against any other meterolgist .Is he always right .NO.But none of the other meterologist are either.

[strongwxnc]

*banter*

Who gives a **** if someone flames JB or if someone likes him. Damn. When did this place become so PC. This consist back and forth about JB is stupid.

I for one could care less what side of the JB fence you are on. Most folks just have to get the last word in around here.

I just hope Tebow can bring a snow storm to the SE. I assume if he does, it will be late March

*banter*

[nchighcountrywx]

*banter*

Who gives a **** if someone flames JB or if someone likes him. Damn. When did this place become so PC. This consist back and forth about JB is stupid.

I for one could care less what side of the JB fence you are on. Most folks just have to get the last word in around here.

I just hope Tebow can bring a snow storm to the SE. I assume if he does, it will be late March

*banter*

I'm with Tebow !

[dsaur]

Why move this junk from a thread that was negative from the beginning over to a perfectly genial banter thread? At least before, I knew what thread to stay out of

Me...if I can get my old van up there, I'm going to try that car thing under Iron Mt. in Chat. Can't think of any closer tunnels, loll. Well, there is one under the highway up in May retta, but I don't think it is long enough. I'd need a good half mile to get up to 60mph. T

[Cameronfry]

*banter*

Who gives a **** if someone flames JB or if someone likes him. Damn. When did this place become so PC. This consist back and forth about JB is stupid.

I for one could care less what side of the JB fence you are on. Most folks just have to get the last word in around here.

I just hope Tebow can bring a snow storm to the SE. I assume if he does, it will be late March

*banter*

Great post and I agree 100%.

[DaculaWeather]

Agreed. This is not banter anymore, it's just plan 'ol arguing and bitching. Agree to disagree and move on.

[pcbjr]

I'll try to get us back to banter and the topic of this thread -

What's your temp forecast for your area the day before through the day after Christmas?

Being a pretty far south member, mine will probably be about the highest, but the GFS has us flirting with 80º. Hardly seems like "the Season".

Oh well ....

[Cold Rain]

*banter*

Who gives a **** if someone flames JB or if someone likes him. Damn. When did this place become so PC. This consist back and forth about JB is stupid.

I for one could care less what side of the JB fence you are on. Most folks just have to get the last word in around here.

I just hope Tebow can bring a snow storm to the SE. I assume if he does, it will be late March

*banter*

[burgertime]

(1) Yes, but he was the one that said that criticizing a MET who sometimes get's the forecast wrong is ridiculous. We are not perfect.

(2) so you have statistics to back your hypothesis up? If not, than im just going to take that as a opinion

(3) Yes, Because, you criticize his forecasting methods.

1. So you are claiming that because he said that forecasting is tough and no one is perfect MET's should not be criticized or called to task for sensationalism? Riiiiiiiiiigggght.

2. Nope no stats just something I know. Kind of like how most mets on here will probably have a negative opinion of DT.

3. lol I didn't criticize his forecasting methods. I have no idea what his said methods are. I criticized him for being being constantly off the mark for the Southeast and overhyping storms. Again when one MET is off the mark on a regular basis for our area and another is usually right, I'll take the one who is right. To be honest I'm still a little confused as to what you are actually arguing. Are you saying that no MET should ever be criticized by non METs? If you're asking for proof why we dislike I think it's fair to ask for proof why you like and feel what we are saying is wrong.

*banter*

Who gives a **** if someone flames JB or if someone likes him. Damn. When did this place become so PC. This consist back and forth about JB is stupid.

I for one could care less what side of the JB fence you are on. Most folks just have to get the last word in around here.

I just hope Tebow can bring a snow storm to the SE. I assume if he does, it will be late March

*banter*

I refuse sir

[DaculaWeather]

I'll try to get us back to banter and the topic of this thread -

What's your temp forecast for your area the day before through the day after Christmas?

Being a pretty far south member, mine will probably be about the highest, but the GFS has us flirting with 80º. Hardly seems like "the Season".

Oh well ....

Here's our stats for Christmas http://www.daculawea...stmas_climo.php

And here: http://www.daculaweather.com/dacula_records.php

[Amos83]

Holy crap.... if I have to go through another winter on this thread of the freakin bitching about JB or HM I'm going to go cross eyed. Maybe we should start a JB/HM battle thread where only posts about how great or horrible they are are allowed?

[strongwxnc]

I expect nothing less good sir !

I refuse sir