40/70 Benchmark Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I can't believe they haven't posted any pics of you electrocuting yourself in the bathtub yet. Arm us with a pic of him and so it shall be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I don't think anyone is suprised by the prospect of another torch around mid month....since most of us felt that sustained cold and snow were not on the immediate horizon. we need a roll of the dice where we get a mega (for this year) cannonball to come through and break up the pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yeah we have been advertising this "cold shot" as transient...but perhaps long enough to get an event or two in here. I'm not sold ona huge torch mid-month, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised. I'd be surprised at sustained below avg temps...but I think we could also remain closer to seasonal levels mid-month if that W Canada ridging hangs tough...even if the EPO goes back to positive. do you see any chance for a 93-94 style flip in mid December bringing sub zero highs post Christmas? Correct me if i'm wrong, but i think I read somewhere that the Mount Pinatubo eruption of 1991 played some kind of role in the extreme cold that winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 we need a roll of the dice where we get a mega (for this year) cannonball to come through and break up the pattern. Hey, it only takes one storm...lol. Recall late January 2008 when you had the biggest storm in all of SNE that season. That occurred in a sea of mix events down that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 do you see any chance for a 93-94 style flip in mid December bringing sub zero highs post Christmas? Correct me if i'm wrong, but i think I read somewhere that the Mount Pinatubo eruption of 1991 played some kind of role in the extreme cold that winter. We need the -EPO ridge to gain more amplitude like 93-94, where it forced the PV way south to Hudson Bay. That's a more favorable +NAO pattern than what the models show right now, which is the PV hanging up by Davis Strait/Western Greenland, with little cold air pressing south over the Bay. None of the long-range models seem to amplify that ridge anymore; it eventually just retrogrades and then flattens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 do you see any chance for a 93-94 style flip in mid December bringing sub zero highs post Christmas? Correct me if i'm wrong, but i think I read somewhere that the Mount Pinatubo eruption of 1991 played some kind of role in the extreme cold that winter. It probably did...it made the PV obscenely cold IIRC form what I read...but I'm not sure exactly. That pattern is probably not coming any time soon...but it can't be ruled out later this month. Every so often we see this type of PV intrusion...we saw in Dec 1983 too. Even January 2004 did it...that is the coldest 3 day average temp in ORH on record believe it or not and several other NE stations.(that Jan 2004 3 day period) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 It probably did...it made the PV obscenely cold IIRC form what I read...but I'm not sure exactly. That pattern is probably not coming any time soon...but it can't be ruled out later this month. Every so often we see this type of PV intrusion...we saw in Dec 1983 too. Even January 2004 did it...that is the coldest 3 day average temp in ORH on record believe it or not and several other NE stations. We hit -18.4F here That was awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 we need a roll of the dice where we get a mega (for this year) cannonball to come through and break up the pattern. We have a monster over TN right now, 5 contour cutoff low and the NAO/AO isn't going to flinch. We need something biblical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Maybe another 31F ice storm that calls for the National Guard, lol. But in all seriousness, I think we'll have chances, we'll just have to hope the shortwaves aren't phased or hugely amped up...if they aren't, I think we could easily some good SWFEs that produce snow. stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 It probably did...it made the PV obscenely cold IIRC form what I read...but I'm not sure exactly. That pattern is probably not coming any time soon...but it can't be ruled out later this month. Every so often we see this type of PV intrusion...we saw in Dec 1983 too. Even January 2004 did it...that is the coldest 3 day average temp in ORH on record believe it or not and several other NE stations.(that Jan 2004 3 day period) You can keep that month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 We hit -18.4F here That was awesome ORH averaged like -2F or -3F over a 3 day period during that Jan 2004 outbreak. Coldest on record for that long of a period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hey, it only takes one storm...lol. Recall late January 2008 when you had the biggest storm in all of SNE that season. That occurred in a sea of mix events down that way. I remember he spent the entire afternoon crying about how it was going to underperform, then he wound up in this band from hell and got like 14". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 We have a monster over TN right now, 5 contour cutoff low and the NAO/AO isn't going to flinch. We need something biblical. That is sweet though. Love ULL power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 You can keep that month. Yeah I wasn't a fan of it...but it shows the power of a displaced PV. We'd like it further north like Jan 1994...more over Hudson Bay...not near Vim Toot's fanny. I think you were like a -10F for that month on temp departures, lol. -10F in January for the month is some serious stuff...not daily...monthly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 That is sweet though. Love ULL power I don't care how many closed contours there are on the weather map....if it induces vomit sensible wx imby, then I could do without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yeah I wasn't a fan of it...but it shows the power of a displaced PV. We'd like it further north like Jan 1994...more over Hudson Bay...not near Vim Toot's fanny. I think you were like a -10F for that month on temp departures, lol. -10F in January for the month is some serious stuff...not daily...monthly I remember that was smack dab in the midst of Fanieul Hall hey day......I simply refused to enter the bar with a jacket because it was inconvenient....I'd park in my staked out spot and walk the ~.5-1 mile to the Purple Shamrock in a T-shirt..... I was outta my tits back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 You can keep that month. But that cold was something I'll never forget. That was an amazing weather aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I don't care how many closed contours there are on the weather map....if it induces vomit sensible wx imby, then I could do without it. Of course you would say that unless you were sitting under it. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Of course you would say that unless you were sitting under it. What's your point? My point is that I'm not, so I ain't whacking my byrdy to a weather chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 But that cold was something I'll never forget. That was an amazing weather aspect. Yea but it induced vomit weather IHBY so he does not care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 My point is that I'm not, so I ain't whacking my byrdy to a weather chart. AWT it's not interesting WX unless it's IYBY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Hey, it only takes one storm...lol. Recall late January 2008 when you had the biggest storm in all of SNE that season. That occurred in a sea of mix events down that way. True but I meant more a pattern wrecking ball...we need a storm with genuine tiger blood. Not one of these cutoff loner storms either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yea but it induced vomit weather IHBY so he does not care. Actually, it induced record breaking cold imby and I did appreciate that aspect, but the fact that it was not accompanied by snow made me wanna choke out infants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 AWT it's not interesting WX unless it's IYBY Save for canes and monumental snow events. 3" in ne MS....BOING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Actually, it induced record breaking cold imby and I did appreciate that aspect, but the fact that it was not accompanied by snow made me wanna choke out infants. Cold and dry is worse than any torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 True but I meant more a pattern wrecking ball...we need a storm with genuine tiger blood. Not one of these cutoff loner storms either. That cut-off is so isolated from the polar jet that it's not really going to have an influence on the NAO. It's just a southern stream entity with some manufactured cold air like the 97-98 winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 29, 2011 Author Share Posted November 29, 2011 Save for canes and monumental snow events. 3" in ne MS....BOING LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Cold and dry is worse than any torch. Yea, it sucked, but I did appreciate the historic magnitude of the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 This pattern should produce a few chances to track I'd think between Dec 6 and Dec 15 if the ensembles hold serve. We aren't looking at an ideal pattern, but its not terrible...it could be a lot worse like the one we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Save for canes and monumental snow events. 3" in ne MS....BOING Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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