Powerball Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 NWS Buffalo says don't expect too much in the way of snow/cold until January (with good reasoning). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlord81 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 NWS Buffalo says don't expect too much in the way of snow/cold until January (with good reasoning). Any link to this? I browsed the site and didnt find anything. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Looking forward to the snow later, could be the first accumulating snow. It's in the low 40s but when precip moves in we should drop to freezing quickly enough. HRRR moves the precip in within a few hours, and shuts it off by midnight. Radar echoes are starting to organize so things seem on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Now the 12z Euro doesn't even show a dusting tonight. In fact, if I take it verbatim, I might not see the first accumulation this period (through Dec. 9). 1999-00 all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Now the 12z Euro doesn't even show a dusting tonight. In fact, if I take it verbatim, I might not see the first accumulation this period (through Dec. 9). 1999-00 all over again. you'll see 16-17 flakes tongint, that has always been the reality of the situation. I had more or less nothing through December last season and finished above normal, it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 you'll see 16-17 flakes tongint, that has always been the reality of the situation. I had more or less nothing through December last season and finished above normal, it happens. We didn't do very well that December, but I thought most of the Great Lakes did alright. You had a couple clippers, didn't you? If not, the lake was to blame for your lack of snow, like it is here so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 NWS Buffalo says don't expect too much in the way of snow/cold until January (with good reasoning). lol l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Its just been a cold, dreary day here. We had some flakes, but nothing that stuck. GFS says next week we have 2 nites in the low single digits. Probably first subzero readings for Wisconsin? I have a hard time buying that UNLESS we have snow cover... Ground is still unfrozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Snowing in Des Moines this hour. I'll go with watching the radar tonight. Local forecasts still mentioning lake snow showers for a time tonight south of Milwaukee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 We didn't do very well that December, but I thought most of the Great Lakes did alright. You had a couple clippers, didn't you? If not, the lake was to blame for your lack of snow, like it is here so far. The lake is not to blame for the lack of snow this season, nor was it last season...we aren't seeing snow because the overall pattern sucks, it's not like we have just missed on a marginal storm. As for last Dec, the clipper train went south and west of here, i might have had a couple inches all month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 The lake is not to blame for the lack of snow this season, nor was it last season...we aren't seeing snow because the overall pattern sucks, it's not like we have just missed on a marginal storm. As for last Dec, the clipper train went south and west of here, i might have had a couple inches all month. But in your case I thought it did, b/c I know we had a clipper around Dec. 3rd; we actually had nearly 4 inches with that thing, and I know some areas near Chicago had around an inch or two. It's possible though that it was the WAA snow ahead of the big winter storm. Just verified, and Chicago O'Hare had 16.2 inches last December. Either the lake did influence the snow totals in your area, or your perception was off. MKE had 9 inches, a large amount less in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 The lake is not to blame for the lack of snow this season, nor was it last season...we aren't seeing snow because the overall pattern sucks, it's not like we have just missed on a marginal storm. As for last Dec, the clipper train went south and west of here, i might have had a couple inches all month. But in your case I thought it did, b/c I know we had a clipper around Dec. 3rd; we actually had nearly 4 inches with that thing, and I know some areas near Chicago had around an inch or two. It's possible though that it was the WAA snow ahead of the big winter storm. Dec. 3-4th Dec. 12-13th Dec. 20-21st Dec. 24-25th Dec. 25-26th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Dec. 3-4th Dec. 12-13th Dec. 20-21st Dec. 24-25th Dec. 25-25th lol, i only remember the 3-4th event, the 24-25th stuff, i must have been on some other planet, totally don't recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 We didn't do very well that December, but I thought most of the Great Lakes did alright. You had a couple clippers, didn't you? If not, the lake was to blame for your lack of snow, like it is here so far. no it was not, please stop saying false facts. The clippers missed Alek to the southwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Card Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I Noticed the SOI has risen a bit recently, is this just a brief spike or could it be something sustainable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Got La nina ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Got La nina ? as i posted in another thread, dtx winter outlook hints that snowfall may be less frequent but more intense/bigger storms. IF, a big IF, things happen that way...it will be interesting to see the reactions on here. Mainly from myself LOL. Will I be so thrilled to finally get the monster (assuming we get it that is), that I will not mind not seeing the frequent snowfalls Ive been spoiled with in recent years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Light snow here, probably won't accumulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Been slowly clouding over all day. May get a few flakes later on, although most looks to pass north. Nothing exciting but a few flakes would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 as i posted in another thread, dtx winter outlook hints that snowfall may be less frequent but more intense/bigger storms. IF, a big IF, things happen that way...it will be interesting to see the reactions on here. Mainly from myself LOL. Will I be so thrilled to finally get the monster (assuming we get it that is), that I will not mind not seeing the frequent snowfalls Ive been spoiled with in recent years? Happy aniversary of the 1974 monster. Detroit and points north got nailed. DET 19.2 inches and parts of Oakland county got 20+ inch measurements. If anyone would no better it would be Deedler. Hint Hint Hint..,. Enlighten us youngsters about the great one. ( or the second greatest) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 pretty cool looping the fcst soundings for tonight for out by RFD on the LSX WRF showing nice top-down saturation as the -SN moves in tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 pretty cool looping the fcst soundings for tonight for out by RFD on the LSX WRF showing nice top-down saturation as the -SN moves in tonight. Nice. Does the same thing starting around hour 39. Light snow in Cedar Rapids now. 6 miles visibility lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hopefully the GFS is on to something for next weekend. Been pretty consistent in dropping a large chunk of arctic air into the central US, with lots of storminess on the front side. This would have potential to be a nice widespread snow event. My "gut" feeling is pretty good about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Nice. Does the same thing starting around hour 39. Light snow in Cedar Rapids now. 6 miles visibility lol. near 35dbz area west of Clinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Temperature is falling here, humidity going up as well. Looks like that band of snow will be falling here in the NE corner of IL soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'm not sure where else to post this, but...pretty cool animation from CIMSS http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/blog/archives/9299 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'm not sure where else to post this, but...pretty cool animation from CIMSS http://cimss.ssec.wi...g/archives/9299 Classic example of weather porn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 A great update from LOT regarding current situation. AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL 656 PM CST THU DEC 1 2011 DISCUSSION 655 PM CST HAVE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE FORECAST FOR THIS EVENING IN TERMS OF POPS...WEATHER...AND PRECIP AMOUNTS. RADAR MOSAIC SHOWS AN INTENSIFYING BAND OF PRECIP ACROSS EASTERN IOWA AND EXTENDING NORTHEAST WITH THE HEAVIEST PRECIP FROM JUST NORTH OF CEDAR RAPIDS TO DUBUQUE TO FREEPORT. SHORT TERM GUIDANCE SUPPORTS WHAT RADAR HAS BEEN SHOWING THE PAST HOUR OR SO WHICH IS AN INTENSIFICATION OF THE MID LEVEL TEMPERATURE GRADIENT/FRONTOGENESIS AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING MID/UPPER LEVEL TROUGH AXIS AND IN RESPONSE TO THE APPROACH OF THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF THE UPPER LEVEL JET. GOOD AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE NAM AND RUC TO BRING INCREASED UPWARD ASCENT WITHIN THE DENDRITIC SNOW GROWTH ZONE OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS WITH THIS DEVELOPING BAND OF FORCING MOVING EASTWARD INTO THE FORECAST AREA. EXPECT THAT HIGHER RADAR RETURNS WILL BE SPREADING/EXPANDING EASTWARD TOWARDS LAKE MICHIGAN WITH PRECIP HAVING A BETTER TIME REACHING THE GROUND EARLY THIS EVENING. MEANWHILE THE MAIN BAND WILL CONTINUE TO DEVELOP EASTWARD AND FOCUS ACROSS AREAS FROM THE IL/WI STATE LINE SOUTHWARD ACROSS ROCKFORD TOWARDS ROCHELLE AND AIM NORTHEASTWARD TOWARD WAUKEGAN AND SOUTHWARD TOWARDS NORTHERN DUPAGE AND COOK COUNTIES BY LATE EVENING. BEST FORCING SHOULD BE PRETTY FOCUSED ACROSS A NARROW CORRIDOR AND IT IS TOUGH TO SAY WHERE EXACTLY THIS WILL SET UP BUT THE AREA IDENTIFIED ABOVE WILL BE PRONE. THIS BRINGS CONCERNS REGARDING PRECIP TYPE AND AMOUNTS. FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW THAT PRECIP SHOULD BE MOSTLY SNOW TOWARDS THE ROCKFORD AND ROCHELLE AREAS AND POINTS NORTHEAST TOWARDS WAUKEGAN BUT CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT A RAIN SNOW MIX INITIALLY FOR A SHORT TIME. POINTS SOUTH AND EAST TOWARDS THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN CHICAGO METRO WILL BE A BIT MORE TRICKY GIVEN MANY AREAS ARE STILL IN THE UPPER 30S TO AROUND 40 BUT EXPECT THAT EVAPORATIVE COOLING WILL ALLOW ANY MIX TO BECOME SNOW...ESPECIALLY IF INCREASED DYNAMICALLY FORCED COOLING CAN INTENSIFY UNDER THE BETTER FORCING. SNOW AMOUNT FORECAST WILL REMAIN TRICKY AS WELL GIVEN FAIRLY WARM GROUND TEMPS...ANTECEDENT RELATIVELY WARM LLVL AIRMASS...SOME UNCERTAINTY OF PRECIP TYPE AT ONSET AND POTENTIAL FOR A VERY INTENSE BAND OF SNOW. EXPECT THAT AREAS UNDER THE HEAVIEST BAND MAY RECEIVE A SLUSHY HALF TO 1 INCH OF ACCUMULATION...OVER A FAIRLY SHORT TIME BUT THIS MAY BE OVER A VERY NARROW AREA...WITH SURROUNDING AREAS POTENTIALLY SEEING LITTLE IF ANY ACCUMULATION. WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE DETAILS. GRIDDED UPDATE ALREADY SENT WITH UPDATED ZONES/TEXT ON THE WAY SHORTLY. MDB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I got some decent light snow as the narrow band was moving through, but it barely managed to put a bit of white on some of the grass. I still have only received a trace of snow this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 A great update from LOT regarding current situation. AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL 656 PM CST THU DEC 1 2011 -snip~ MDB Thanks for the update. I'm 3 miles from the border near Waukegan so I should be seeing some of this tonight! Post an update when I see flakes flying! Update 10:19pm: Light snow coming down since 8:15pm. Sticking on the grass, mulch, dirt, leaves - basically everything but stone/concrete. Temp approaching 32°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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