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December 2011 General Discussion/Obs


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Still haven't fired up the furnace and the wife isn't even yelping once yet. As long as it stays in the 50's in here the streak will go on and it looks to for at least another week plus.

Your walls must be two feet thick or something! lol

I bet tonight it'll dip pretty low!

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damn, how much asbestos do you have in your walls?

Pink Panther must be good stuff.. plus this lil shack bakes in the sun all day and it hasn't been cold yet this season.. Maybe tonight it drops below 50 but I'm not ending the streak for one night. Could be 50 for the torch storm next week.

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^ lol - Oh how I pray you finally get to feel what a lasting arctic outbreak feels like before you never come back to WI again.

Was up north in ashland for a funeral this week and there was barely enough ice to support fishing on the smaller lakes. Prob be driving 4 wheelers on the ice this weekend but a late start none the less up there. Last yr we were ice fishing down here and even had two trips to monona bay in.

900 AM CDT FRI DEC 9 2011

LAKE MICHIGAN WATER TEMPERATURES...

CHICAGO SHORE...40.

CHICAGO CRIB...43.

MICHIGAN CITY WEST INTAKE...42.

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I might almost take you up on that one. What do you want to bet?

Was just a little dumb sarcasm in the earlier post.. you and snowfreak wont give up the possibility of a bad winter until april and Joey is on the below normal wagon, but just how bad of a winter through jan 21st i was trying to gauge.

So much for temps struggling to hit 20 today like was advertised earlier. Couldn't even do that during last yrs cold shot with snow on the ground - how the hell were we going to do it with green grass.

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Was just a little dumb sarcasm in the earlier post.. you and snowfreak wont give up the possibility of a bad winter until april and Joey is on the below normal wagon, but just how bad of a winter through jan 21st i was trying to gauge.

Trust me, if you would have asked me two weeks ago I'd have been close to giving up. Over the last week or two, I've actually been less worried. I''ve come to terms with this winter. As long as I get a couple of solid events at some point, I'm fine.

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Trust me, if you would have asked me two weeks ago I'd have been close to giving up. Over the last week or two, I've actually been less worried. I''ve come to terms with this winter. As long as I get a couple of solid events at some point, I'm fine.

I've had a bad feeling since fall that dec would blow so its eased the pain that we will now be going into the last 3rd of the month basically snow-less. Maybe things will break right and we can have some recreational snow on the ground between the 24th and new yrs but I can't say I'm too optimistic ATM. Somebody is going to get hit hard during that week I believe, but will it be the Black Hills of SD, Mt Suckville, WI. or Campbell Hill, OH?

Off for now to go pick out the christmas tree with the wife.. Always try and do it with snow falling or on the ground but if we wait for that we will be lucky to have the main tree up before christmas.

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I think the winter cancel stuff is a tad premature myself, but when a score of midwest climate stations are close to breaking records for snow lateness, whether it be first measurable/first inch, it's definitely noteworthy.

Climo doesn't support a normal to above normal snowfall season here now. Only 14% of winters that have had below normal season to date snowfall by December 10th at CLE had above normal seasonal snowfalls. The odds are really against us and many other midwestern sites as supported by the stats others have posted.

That's not to say that this winter can't be filled with backloaded awesomeness (re: see 2009/2010, which was still a below normal winter for us and a disaster for Ontario) But no matter how great the last half of winter is, it can't replace the fact that it barely snowed more than a dusting for most of the Midwest before late December (when the vast majority of people would actually like to have snow).

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I think the winter cancel stuff is a tad premature myself, but when a score of midwest climate stations are close to breaking records for snow lateness, whether it be first measurable/first inch, it's definitely noteworthy.

Climo doesn't support a normal to above normal snowfall season here now. Only 14% of winters that have had below normal season to date snowfall by December 10th at CLE had above normal seasonal snowfalls. The odds are really against us and many other midwestern sites as supported by the stats others have posted.

That's not to say that this winter can't be filled with backloaded awesomeness (re: see 2009/2010, which was still a below normal winter for us and a disaster for Ontario) But no matter how great the last half of winter is, it can't replace the fact that it barely snowed more than a dusting for most of the Midwest before late December (when the vast majority of people would actually like to have snow).

And all this could be a thing of the past if a monster storm hits the MW in the next 20 days. December is not even a 3rd done. One amazing storm could thrust most of these sites into normal or even above...just one storm. Take a breath and enjoy the cold.

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I think the winter cancel stuff is a tad premature myself, but when a score of midwest climate stations are close to breaking records for snow lateness, whether it be first measurable/first inch, it's definitely noteworthy.

Climo doesn't support a normal to above normal snowfall season here now. Only 14% of winters that have had below normal season to date snowfall by December 10th at CLE had above normal seasonal snowfalls. The odds are really against us and many other midwestern sites as supported by the stats others have posted.

That's not to say that this winter can't be filled with backloaded awesomeness (re: see 2009/2010, which was still a below normal winter for us and a disaster for Ontario) But no matter how great the last half of winter is, it can't replace the fact that it barely snowed more than a dusting for most of the Midwest before late December (when the vast majority of people would actually like to have snow).

Not really...

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DAY 7 AND BEYOND...COLDER AIR LOOKS TO BE IN PLACE TO START PERIOD.

HOWEVER... WITH LA NINA STRENGTHENING INTO LOW END MODERATE RANGE

AND ARCTIC OSCILLATION AND NORTH ATLANTIC OSCILLATION BOTH EXPECTED

TO REMAIN WELL INTO POSITIVE TERRITORY...PATTERN LOOKS TO BE

BECOMING MORE ACTIVE...BUT NOT ONE FAVORED TO HAVE ANY LONG DURATION

OUTBREAKS OF COLD WEATHER YET.

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DAY 7 AND BEYOND...COLDER AIR LOOKS TO BE IN PLACE TO START PERIOD.

HOWEVER... WITH LA NINA STRENGTHENING INTO LOW END MODERATE RANGE

AND ARCTIC OSCILLATION AND NORTH ATLANTIC OSCILLATION BOTH EXPECTED

TO REMAIN WELL INTO POSITIVE TERRITORY...PATTERN LOOKS TO BE

BECOMING MORE ACTIVE...BUT NOT ONE FAVORED TO HAVE ANY LONG DURATION

OUTBREAKS OF COLD WEATHER YET.

The AO is really dictating everything as of late.

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I think the winter cancel stuff is a tad premature myself, but when a score of midwest climate stations are close to breaking records for snow lateness, whether it be first measurable/first inch, it's definitely noteworthy.

Climo doesn't support a normal to above normal snowfall season here now. Only 14% of winters that have had below normal season to date snowfall by December 10th at CLE had above normal seasonal snowfalls. The odds are really against us and many other midwestern sites as supported by the stats others have posted.

That's not to say that this winter can't be filled with backloaded awesomeness (re: see 2009/2010, which was still a below normal winter for us and a disaster for Ontario) But no matter how great the last half of winter is, it can't replace the fact that it barely snowed more than a dusting for most of the Midwest before late December (when the vast majority of people would actually like to have snow).

And here is the thing. NOT EVERY PLACE is below normal either with snowfall.

Never ceases to amaze me how every time the models show a potential storm tracking to WI/MN we see the winter cancel stuff ramp on up. lets just all instantly forget how dreadful the models have been for the past month or so especially at this range.

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