Chicago WX Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 6 years ago tonight...the MDW +SN event http://www.crh.noaa....=13450&source=2 Awesome storm. Hoosier and I refer to it as the "wall of snow" event here in LAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 6 years ago tonight...the MDW +SN event http://www.crh.noaa....=13450&source=2 That was our biggest snowstorm of 2005-06 (6.8" imby). Was a great December....which led to the torchiest January Ive ever seen, also the greenest January (only FOUR days with 1"+ snowcover). One of the few winters this mostly stellar decade that overall was a stinker. Yet, it started with SO much promise with well above normal snow and below normal temps through Christmas. Yet more proof that the pattern right now means nothing wrt winter Dec 9, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Why does December 2006 seem too match this current December? Might be horribly wrong but for some reason it comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 The dewpoint just rapidly dropped to 2 °F! It's at 0 °F on top of the met building. There appears to be some sort of boundary over SE WI separating single digit dewpoints from 15-25 °F dewpoints. Probably not a front, rather a sub-region of air from a different source. Gotta get excited about something when the weather is this boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Looking down my block one year ago yesterday! About 4" of snow I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Why does December 2006 seem too match this current December? Might be horribly wrong but for some reason it comes to mind. Except the fact that it was a Moderate El Nino... But lets ignore that fact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Except the fact that it was a Moderate El Nino... But lets ignore that fact... No, no I'm good with December 2006. Think February 2007...ahh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 00z GFS looks similar to earlier Euro runs with a further north, warmer solution to next Thursdays storm. Shows 50 degrees and rain as far north as the QC. Could be another decent snow from Nebraska, clipping northwest Iowa up into Minnesota/northern Wisconsin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 No, no I'm good with December 2006. Think February 2007...ahh. Pass, that was a miss to the south for the most part... Most of DTX's area ended up with <3" while IN/OH got slammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 As others have stated, Chicago is in rare territory as far as measurable snow goes. Through today there have been only 7 other winter/snow seasons that failed to produce a measurable snowfall by now. I put together a quick data table showing each season and how they performed snow and temperature wise through the rest of the season. As you will see, all of the seasons ended up below normal snowfall wise and none of them were Nina's. It looks like we should make it up to at least 5th or 6th on the list, possibly threatening the record if the late week clipper fails to produce. bump... It looks like Chicago will end up tied for the 5th latest measurable(0.1"+) snowfall on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Thursday, December 8th: Hi: 36F Lo: 24F Overall Sky Conditions: Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 6MPH Rainfall: Trace Snowfall: Trace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 No, no I'm good with December 2006. Think February 2007...ahh. Arguably our greatest 10 day stretch ever starting with the 6" event the week before the blizzard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Why does December 2006 seem too match this current December? Might be horribly wrong but for some reason it comes to mind. No comparison lol. Dec 2006 was torch city, and outside of a few light snows the first week, there was zero snow from the 9th through the end of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Pass, that was a miss to the south for the most part... Most of DTX's area ended up with <3" while IN/OH got slammed. Most of metro Detroit did pretty well, just not like IN/OH. I had 8.5" as did DTW. Temps around 10F during the storm too. It was the only storm of significance that winter (unusually high amount of LES did save us though in SE MI from having a real crappy winter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think some of the major media weather outlets just went with if last winter was cold and snowy and a Nina equals this winter being a Nina, thus more cold and snowy conditions for the MW/Lakes. I could be wrong on that though of course, just a thought. Thing is though, I've read quite a few outlooks on here that are very well reasoned with "deeper thought" put into their methodology. Alas, I think seasonal forecasting remains difficult to have complete accuracy...even if the science is sound. Too many variables that can go wrong. Of course we're assuming this winter goes bust-o-rama. Too soon to make that conclusion IMO...though clearly we're not off to the best of starts. I agree with all of this. I'm not knocking the forecasters. They're doing the best with what science has available to them. I just think the skill in LRF hasn't advanced to the point where they are particularly reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Everything is snow-covered in Waterloo. Snow still falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizardMafia Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 No, no I'm good with December 2006. Think February 2007...ahh. Totally missed that V-Day storm, was in PA at the time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Totally missed that V-Day storm, was in PA at the time.. Taking any trips to PA this winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Totally missed that V-Day storm, was in PA at the time.. Taking any trips to PA this winter? I'd be happy to donate toward the trip if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 From IWX's "On this day in weather history" page for December 9th. Holy crap to those drifts. 1917 -- 26" of snow fell on Vevay, Indiana, with drifts fourteen feet high. A week later the Ohio River was frozen over and people could walk back and forth between Indiana and Kentucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizardMafia Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I'd be happy to donate toward the trip if necessary. No trips to PA this winter season. Made 3 trips over the last few months, got the project finished so no need to go back anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 No trips to PA this winter season. Made 3 trips over the last few months, got the project finished so no need to go back anytime soon. Well if we're in the crapper come February, you'd better schedule something. Jim and I are paying the airfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think some of the major media weather outlets just went with if last winter was cold and snowy and a Nina equals this winter being a Nina, thus more cold and snowy conditions for the MW/Lakes. I could be wrong on that though of course, just a thought. Thing is though, I've read quite a few outlooks on here that are very well reasoned with "deeper thought" put into their methodology. Alas, I think seasonal forecasting remains difficult to have complete accuracy...even if the science is sound. Too many variables that can go wrong. Of course we're assuming this winter goes bust-o-rama. Too soon to make that conclusion IMO...though clearly we're not off to the best of starts. That is the vibe I get from most on here. And an assumption like that at THIS stage in the game (when we statistically have 90% or more of our snow season to go), is ridiculous. I agree with you, too soon to make that conclusion. In fact, WAY too soon I also do agree that mainstream media outlets LRF is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Well if we're in the crapper come February, you'd better schedule something. Jim and I are paying the airfare. THAT is when you would start to realize, wow this winter sucks...and the snow lovers divide into the 2 camps of 1) wanting to salvage those late season snowstorms that usually come in March when winter sucks through Feb, and 2) wishing the snowstorms away and hoping for snow futility records for their respective locations (group 2 is the much smaller one lol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 GFS pumps out nearly an inch of precip for here late next week. Looks like everything would be rain. 8F this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropical Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 You guys won't like this, but I certainly do. http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/anderson/forecast-clues-into-the-new-year/58853 Looks like it will be a plains winter this year as the storm track keeps me and further south in the milder air. A nice respite after the previous 4 winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 You guys won't like this, but I certainly do. http://www.accuweath...-new-year/58853 Looks like it will be a plains winter this year as the storm track keeps me and further south in the milder air. A nice respite after the previous 4 winters. I'll take being right in between the "snowy" and "wet and mild" sectors for the week before Christmas. These can always change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 GFS pumps out nearly an inch of precip for here late next week. Looks like everything would be rain. 8F this morning. Yeah, right! You always like to downplay things. I guarantee you will get some snow out of this. MKE and Chicago? Naso much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Sure beats a suppressed track outlook to the euro fantasy weeklies land and having to live in the MA thread like 09/10 to see any real snow event pics. Sucks we picked up 3 detroit style stat padders and have .7" at the airport. Really wanted to go snow less since its been pretty clear that dec was going to puke on itself outside of a miracle holiday week clipper like system to drop a inch or two if lucky that just melts away in the sun exposed areas. Sucks we lost a winter month and only have one more to go before the suns of feb and spring like march's of late make keeping snow pack tougher than daddy long legs keeping his undies skidder free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 The Ji in me wants to just go ahead and cancel winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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