AppsRunner Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Some light snow falling here... enough to coat the grass again. Clipper on Friday might add another inch or so, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Already -6 at a site out in north-central Iowa. Sitting at a relatively balmy 30 here under the remaining low cloud cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Interesting. I guess one thing to note is at least there have been some snow systems nearby, they just happened to miss northern Illinois up to this point. Hopefully we can get the Thursday night system to overachieve a little. At this point i'd rather just break the record in 10 days instead of picking up a dusting to an inch or so(at best) later this week. We're so close....might as well break it and then move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Clouds were breaking up here...18F now. Wind should help keep temps up some... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 At this point i'd rather just break the record in 10 days instead of picking up a dusting to an inch or so(at best) later this week. We're so close....might as well break it and then move on. Yeah I kind of feel the same way. The latest I can remember going without measurable snow is Dec 9th, but I can't remember what year it was. We have a chance at breaking that, although I think we'll probably get at least a few tenths Thu night. The other shoe will drop eventually, and I'm sure we'll get hammered at some point. Almost feels like we're building karma, even though I don't believe in that crap at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Got a heavy dusting here today, ground still seems a bit warm but boy on the car there was probably a stack about 1-1.5" high. Looks like someone came through and dusted everything with powdered sugar...or used a flour sifter. Hopefully for a bit more Thursday Night gotta believe along/S of I-80 looking good through this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Got a heavy dusting here today, ground still seems a bit warm but boy on the car there was probably a stack about 1-1.5" high. Looks like someone came through and dusted everything with powdered sugar...or used a flour sifter. Hopefully for a bit more Thursday Night gotta believe along/S of I-80 looking good through this area. Interesting that you guys had accumulation in the QC today while just to the east we had nothing. My dad said they had about a half inch on the east side of the QC. It snowed lightly all day at work and there weren't even trace amounts on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Bowme torch with a Plains/MW cutter next week on the ECMWF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Bowme torch with a Plains/MW cutter next week on the ECMWF. Was just looking at that, nice looking phase of the nrn/srn streams...984mb into MN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Was just looking at that, nice looking phase of the nrn/srn streams...984mb into MN. That'd be nice if it were October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Nice job. The only thing that saved '01-'02 and '46-'47 were the respectable March totals. Otherwise, the average seasonal snowfall for those seven seasons is only about 22". The way it is, it's only 24.6". Indeed. Just think if December didn't end up finishing with decent totals in '14-15 and '48-49... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 That'd be nice if it were October. Man say hello to 50F and rain around here if that pans out, probably followed by a good shot of cold again. This cold weather pattern just doesn't want to lock in and sit, just comes in for a few days-lifts out- moderates-then wash, rinse, repeat all over again. I get the feeling this is going to remain a progressive flow type pattern for the next few weeks at least. Meaning if you do get snow it may not last for long and the cold isn't lasting for long. Be nice to get some blocking to set up and lock some cold in for a length of time. I'm smelling a green X-mas around here. Hopefully I'm wrong, but the early trends here aren't looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Man say hello to 50F and rain around here if that pans out, probably followed by a good shot of cold again. This cold weather pattern just doesn't want to lock in and sit, just comes in for a few days-lifts out- moderates-then wash, rinse, repeat all over again. I get the feeling this is going to remain a progressive flow type pattern for the next few weeks at least. Meaning if you do get snow it may not last for long and the cold isn't lasting for long. Be nice to get some blocking to set up and lock some cold in for a length of time. I'm smelling a green X-mas around here. Hopefully I'm wrong, but the early trends here aren't looking good. The teleconnection signals try and head towards more favorable numbers after mid month, but there is still a lot of spread among ensemble members. Not to mention how terrible the ensemble forecasts have been in regards to those indices this past week plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 As others have stated, Chicago is in rare territory as far as measurable snow goes. Through today there have been only 7 other winter/snow seasons that failed to produce a measurable snowfall by now. I put together a quick data table showing each season and how they performed snow and temperature wise through the rest of the season. As you will see, all of the seasons ended up below normal snowfall wise and none of them were Nina's. It looks like we should make it up to at least 5th or 6th on the list, possibly threatening the record if the late week clipper fails to produce. South Bend is in the same boat as Chicago. Here is an article from IWX which is not scientifically relevant due to sample size, but interesting nonetheless: http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=iwx&storyid=75996&source=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Bowme torch with a Plains/MW cutter next week on the ECMWF. And possibly another one in la la land (past day 10). Meltdowns incoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 As others have stated, Chicago is in rare territory as far as measurable snow goes. Through today there have been only 7 other winter/snow seasons that failed to produce a measurable snowfall by now. I put together a quick data table showing each season and how they performed snow and temperature wise through the rest of the season. As you will see, all of the seasons ended up below normal snowfall wise and none of them were Nina's. It looks like we should make it up to at least 5th or 6th on the list, possibly threatening the record if the late week clipper fails to produce. Nice chart. Seems like there's a decent chance this gets broken. And then we move onto the latest 1.0"+, which is January 17, 1899. That one seems almost unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Hideous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Dropped to 15F overnight. Less clouds today. Like a broken record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Were due for a lack luster winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Were due for a lack luster winter Ha, you never know. Facts are a lot of us have had really good winters lately. But looking back at history, there are always some clunkers too...and maybe we're headed towards one, who knows? Still, even with a bad December we can still salvage winter in January, February, and March IMO. Plus some have had a few snow events already, a nice bonus. Of course some have had nothing. The pattern blows in the extended for sustained winter weather. Doesn't mean it won't snow it all, but any beliefs that we'll lock into a winter pattern soon are precarious. Let's just hope that the Pacific can get us some help after mid month, because the other indices are about as bad as you can imagine. And no I'm not trolling and trying to be a debbie downer...reality bites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 There looks to be a threat around day 7, but the cold air may be lacking yet again, unless something forces the northern stream to dig more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Ha, you never know. Facts are a lot of us have had really good winters lately. But looking back at history, there are always some clunkers too...and maybe we're headed towards one, who knows? Still, even with a bad December we can still salvage winter in January, February, and March IMO. Plus some have had a few snow events already, a nice bonus. Of course some have had nothing. The pattern blows in the extended for sustained winter weather. Doesn't mean it won't snow it all, but any beliefs that we'll lock into a winter pattern soon are precarious. Let's just hope that the Pacific can get us some help after mid month, because the other indices are about as bad as you can imagine. And no I'm not trolling and trying to be a debbie downer...reality bites. It could be a blessing disguise for me to have a ho hum mild kind of winter considering I am in the process of building a new home. So its not a bad thing for me at least. Pattern could change on a dime......i e 1999? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Clouds again... This must be the cloudiest time of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Lots and lots of green grass still around. Had an old superstitious Grandmother that said a green christmas means there will be a death in the family. Morbid... Anyways beautiful early winter day here. I just might be the only sucker who doesn't care about a torch. Nothing like shelving the jackets for a hooded sweatshirt. The snow will come soon enough. Enjoy the nice weather while it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 It's a glorious sunny day, even though we're in the 20s it feels great out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 To my eye the long range GFS shows promise. At least the 12z... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 0z Euro mean popping the SE ridge nicely with trofing in the west..something to watch. Think it gets more active as we get to the middle of the month. The GFS on the other hand is showing something different with more zonal flow and a flatter ridge out in the pacific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 12Z GFS is working on some midwest storms too coming up. Not going to saying anything else - don't want to jinx anything! lol Anyone know why the teleconnection values haven't updated the last two days? http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/daily.index.ascii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Tuesday, December 6th: Hi: 34F Lo: 26F Overall Sky Conditions: Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 14MPH Rainfall: Trace Snowfall: Trace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 According to the U of W, if we have 140mm of precip this December, we will break the all time record for wettest year in Waterloo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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