TugHillMatt Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 looks like the 0z GFS is a further south with the snow band thursday night (along and south of I-80 from IA-IN) and a smidge wetter in spots (near .10" liquid) Further south? NOOOOOOOOOOO! ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Further south? NOOOOOOOOOOO! ugh lol, it's like an inch or two at best. Nothing to get upset about. Hopefully the LES guns can turn on for you soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 34F in MKE, 23F in LSE and 0F in Duluth... Lot of subzero readings in N MN right now. Cold air is out there, clouds keeping me safe for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoar_Frost Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 did the same thing on the way home from COD but not a full changeover. Don't think I've seen LES on this side of the lake before a decent synoptic snow event. A little OT, but ... quality lake-effect is rare on the windward side of Lake Michigan, true. However, one of the more memorable aspects of the GHD blizzard was the two inches or so of pure lake-effect snow that fell that Tuesday morning in DeKalb (yes, DeKalb, 65 miles away from the lake). Of course, that was just before one of the most interesting synoptic set-ups in many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 looks like the 0z GFS is a further south with the snow band thursday night (along and south of I-80 from IA-IN) and a smidge wetter in spots (near .10" liquid) The NAM and RGEM are even further south with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 A little OT, but ... quality lake-effect is rare on the windward side of Lake Michigan, true. However, one of the more memorable aspects of the GHD blizzard was the two inches or so of pure lake-effect snow that fell that Tuesday morning in DeKalb (yes, DeKalb, 65 miles away from the lake). Of course, that was just before one of the most interesting synoptic set-ups in many years. Not entirely true the past few years at least.. 6-12 inches christmas last year.. March 2009 12"++ in SE Wisonsin, and a couple more events I have to dig up.. Definitely not the quality of the other side, but its not nonexistent/rare either. Usually there are AT LEAST a couple of decent events a year on this side of the lake.. March 2009- http://www.crh.noaa....p?MO=03&YR=2009 Christmas last year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Wow, it's already down to -11 at a few locations in northwest Iowa as we approach midnight. That's astounding to me as we've only dropped to 18 for our coldest temp of the season so far. Amazing what fresh snow cover can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 Monday, December 5th: Hi: 39F Lo: 34F Overall Sky Conditions: Cloudy Max Wind Gust: 13MPH Rainfall: 0.06" Snowfall: Trace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 A little OT, but ... quality lake-effect is rare on the windward side of Lake Michigan, true. However, one of the more memorable aspects of the GHD blizzard was the two inches or so of pure lake-effect snow that fell that Tuesday morning in DeKalb (yes, DeKalb, 65 miles away from the lake). Of course, that was just before one of the most interesting synoptic set-ups in many years. I don't think I'd call that pure LES looking over the radar data just now. It was more the back edge of the deformation band/lake enhanced area of snow moving through and transitioned more to a typical single band LES look closer to the lake. But I'd disagree, we have had several good LES events on this side of the lake the past few years even this far west. I even picked up 1.1" in 20 mins during one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Wow, it's already down to -11 at a few locations in northwest Iowa as we approach midnight. That's astounding to me as we've only dropped to 18 for our coldest temp of the season so far. Amazing what fresh snow cover can do. This is why I'm somewhat thankful we don't have fresh snowcover in Madison, this cold spell will be way more bearable with the ground still absorbing radiation. Being even this close to a snowpack is making our weather more miserable though, more cold air and more clouds than if it wasn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 A couple spots in nw Iowa are -17 this morning. That is darn cold for early December. Like cyclone, I haven't gone much below 20 yet this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Getting close to 50.00" of precipitation for the year at LAF. I did have to "estimate" the May total due to airport not reporting correctly (used the WL COOP total), but we're 1.66" away from reaching 50". At the WL COOP, which has the area's longest set of records dating back to 1901, there have been only four years that had 50"+...1909, 1927, 1929, and 1957. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Hawk- Coldest I've been is 15F or around there... These clouds, while they suck, really are saving my butt with temps. Sitting at 20F. I had a bunch of snow fluff on the car this morning. Finally should see some sun tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 area of light mod snow doing some decent work under unlikely conditions to my west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 All the radar returns are to my southeast, but it is snowing very lightly. Burlington is now reporting moderate+ snow with 1/4 mile visibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 All the radar returns are to my southeast, but it is snowing very lightly. Burlington is now reporting moderate+ snow with 1/4 mile visibility. looks like an axis of 1-2 inches to my southwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Last year at this time, this first significant event of the season had wrapped up a day earlier. Good times. http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/1648-123-126-mwgl-snow-event/ Snowfall totals from major and first order sites for December 3-5, 2010 Minneapolis MN (MSP): 6.1" St. Cloud MN (STC): 5.0" Chanhassen MN (MPX): 8.3" Rochester MN (RST): 9.0" Waterloo IA (ALO): 1.4" Mason City IA (MCW): 1.1" Davenport IA (DVN): 4.9" Dubuque IA (DBQ): 8.1" Milwaukee WI (MKE): 3.6" Madison WI (MSN): 4.2" La Crosse WI (LSE): 7.1" Eau Claire WI (EAU): 3.8" Chicago IL (ORD): 5.1" Rockford IL (RFD): 6.4" Peoria IL (PIA): 3.6" Moline IL (MLI): 2.5" Indianapolis IN (IND): 3.0" Cincinnati OH (CVG): 3.2" Dayton OH (DAY): 1.9" Louisville KY (SDF): 1.6" Lexington KY (LEX): 2.7" Jackson KY (JKL): 4.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Last year was a big year around here and it did start early. Some low temps. Colorado ...ouchy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 GFS a little better for the Thu/Fri deal. Probably a stripe of 1-2" snows from southern IA all the way through southern MI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 GFS a little better for the Thu/Fri deal. Probably a stripe of 1-2" snows from southern IA all the way through southern MI. Oh ya def. BMI/PIA would look good for around 2" or so given the high ratio nature of it. The 12z NAM is finally catching up but still south. Has the band from central NE to central MO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 The NAM has been so bad, that I'm inclined to look at it for entertainment purposes only. 0z Euro was farther north than the 12z GFS, but lighter with QPF. I'd probably side with it right now, more so for the placement of the snow field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 too bad the snow is fighting the low level dry air, looking at AMDAR soundings from local flights, pretty deep DGZ to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 D-Day is approaching for ORD. December 16th, 1965 is the record for the latest 0.1". And yes that winter blew chunks. Only 24.9" for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamps10 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 hoping the clipper goes a bit more south, but looks good for the I-74 corridor with that thursday/friday system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 D-Day is approaching for ORD. December 16th, 1965 is the record for the latest 0.1". And yes that winter blew chunks. Only 24.9" for the season. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMADreamer Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 We managed to pick up an inch of the white stuff here over night and this morning. Came as a bit of a surprise really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Today is almost a carbon copy of yesterday. 23F and snow flurries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 GFS a little better for the Thu/Fri deal. Probably a stripe of 1-2" snows from southern IA all the way through southern MI. Oh ya def. BMI/PIA would look good for around 2" or so given the high ratio nature of it. The 12z NAM is finally catching up but still south. Has the band from central NE to central MO. GGEM is probably good for a band of 2-5", if indeed the high ratios were to work out. Edit: ECMWF holds its track from previous runs, and has a narrow area that would be worthy of 1-2" at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 GGEM is probably good for a band of 2-5", if indeed the high ratios were to work out. Saved by the Canadians. Thanks OL, Mike, et all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 GFS really doesn't show anything for LSE in terms of precip...for 10+ days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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