Isotherm Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 2008-2009 was good for NYC and LGA. 27"-30". What was the coastal Jersey total? It was decent. I recorded 29.5" in Monmouth County, probably made it sound worse than it was. But even still, there were a ton of events in Dec-Jan that screwed my area. Much of Jan featured dead grass with scattered patches of snow on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 1322618109[/url]' post='1153088']It was decent. I recorded 29.5" in Monmouth County, probably made it sound worse than it was. But even still, there were a ton of events in Dec-Jan that screwed my area. Much of Jan featured dead grass with scattered patches of snow on the ground. I received 33" in NE Queens and I clearly remember at least 10-12 snow events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 It was decent. I recorded 29.5" in Monmouth County, probably made it sound worse than it was. But even still, there were a ton of events in Dec-Jan that screwed my area. Much of Jan featured dead grass with scattered patches of snow on the ground. You theme song of that winter should probably be titled "Saved by a Gravity Wave" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I received 33" in NE Queens and I clearly remember at least 10-12 snow events. Yeah, there were a lot of 0.5" type deals in the late dec-early jan time frame. You probably got a bit more than me out of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 It was decent. I recorded 29.5" in Monmouth County, probably made it sound worse than it was. But even still, there were a ton of events in Dec-Jan that screwed my area. Much of Jan featured dead grass with scattered patches of snow on the ground. According to ag3 this is his dream scenario. In fact he almost prefers them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Give me last year's so called 30 day winter every single time (which it really wasn't.) Screw March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 1322618329[/url]' post='1153100']According to ag3 this is his dream scenario. In fact he almost prefers them. January 2009 was a snowy month for you and me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Give me last year's so called 30 day winter every single time (which it really wasn't.) Screw March. If I had a choice I'd have all my snow in the Dec-Jan period when the sun angle is lowest. Last winter was darn near my ideal winter, if it just started about a week or so earlier in Dec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 march ninas are cold and wet. 34 and rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 January 2009 had a -4.2 temp anomaly for LGA with 5 snow events of over 1". And a total of 9". Also featured 6 other days of traces with coatings and snow squalls. 14 days also featured high temps of 32 degrees and below. A VERY cold month with snow. A very wintry feel month. Only 6 days got into the 40's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 more good news from Don S. http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/29440-medium-range-discussion-winter-2011-12/page__view__findpost__p__1152963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 January 2009 had a -4.2 temp anomaly for LGA with 5 snow events of over 1". And a total of 9". Also featured 6 other days of traces with coatings and snow squalls. A VERY cold month with snow. I remember several events Upton didn't even issue any type of advisory with several inches on the ground. Every disco said FM, no big deal, and several events were during rush hour and quite treachorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 JAN 2009 was one of the coldest months we had aside from JAN 2003 to JAN 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 If I had a choice I'd have all my snow in the Dec-Jan period when the sun angle is lowest. Last winter was darn near my ideal winter, if it just started about a week or so earlier in Dec. Agreed. A little earlier in December and some more snow in the first half of February and it would have been my perfect winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 If I had a choice I'd have all my snow in the Dec-Jan period when the sun angle is lowest. Last winter was darn near my ideal winter, if it just started about a week or so earlier in Dec. If you compare December 1995 to January 1996... Last winter beats it hands down.... it was the greatest 30 day period we have ever seen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 JAN 2009 was one of the coldest months we had aside from JAN 2003 to JAN 2005. Feb '07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Feb '07. Yes, another brutally cold month. For me, the king is January 2004... I still recall walking outside during that clipper at 7 degrees and recall going outside when it was zero degrees in Jan 18, I believe it was. Coldest Nor'easter for me is January 2005... it was 9 degrees at noon, I'd never forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 when was the last time NYC was below zero, 1994? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 All that aside I'm still wondering if NYC will ever see a sub zero low ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 1322619717[/url]' post='1153165']Agreed. A little earlier in December and some more snow in the first half of February and it would have been my perfect winter. 95-96. Snow from November through April is a perfect winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 All that aside I'm still wondering if NYC will ever see a sub zero low ever again. wow, you're like in my head dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 when was the last time NYC was below zero, 1994? yes. 2004 should have done it.... There was too much wind, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 1322619824[/url]' post='1153171']Feb '07. -6.3 at LGA December 2010 had a -4.5 also So January 2009 (-4.3), December 2010 and February 2007 were coldest months in recent times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 in all likelihood, we dont see a below normal month this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 -6.3 at LGA December 2010 had a -4.5 also So January 2009 (-4.3), December 2010 and February 2007 were coldest months in recent times. December 2010 didn't really have the arcitc cold like the ones we know (04, 05, 07, and 09). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I'm predicting above normal cold for Jan :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 in all likelihood, we dont see a below normal month this winter. probably... I doubt we will see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 1322620306[/url]' post='1153201']December 2010 didn't really have the arcitc cold like the ones we know (04, 05, 07, and 09). Well it's December. Tough to do that. But there were several days of highs only in the 20's. Regardless, a -4.5 in this urban heat period is pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 yes. 2004 should have done it.... There was too much wind, I believe. Three factors killed it, there was alot more clearing the day before than was ever anticipated behind the clipper, as a result the highs reached 21-22 when the forecast was 16-18, the NAO was going positive and the core of the coldest 850 temps went a bit more NE toward Boston. I believe Boston by 11pm was -3 or -4 and NYC was still 5 or 6. The wind was also a bit too NW'ly I think which tends to cause a downslope, if the 850s are not at least -28C I think the wind needs to be more due northerly for NYC to go below 0....wind and strong cold air advection is actually required historically for NYC to go below 0, on nights where its calm NYC has generally struggled to go below 0 because a bit of a heat island effect is maximized it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Although Feb 2007 was well below average, given normals are higher, January 2004 felt significantly colder to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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