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NYC Banter and BS Thread Part IV


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euro may have some light snow after the front, it doesnt dig the H5 energy as south at 00z and the surface low is further north into Maine and thus there is no weenie storm.

With nothing to slow down the flow, it seems like a reasonable solution. 12z ensembles didn't seem to be barking at anything.

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I agree. It seems like its always 57 degrees

It has been awhile since December completely stunk or was above average temperature wise and below normal snow wise and January 1 - February 28/29 rocked and rolled with snow and cold. Last year was great as was 2009-10 but I am all for a dud December if we can get a solid January-February (and I mean the entire months of January and February).

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Even the Euro today at 168 hours is considerably warmer at 850 than it was 3 days ago at 240 hours, that just goes to show every model has a climo/cold bias in winter regardless of how poor the AO/NAO may be. On another note, this pattern reminds me so much of early December 1993.

Missing the El Nino aspect and that is a major sticking point on a 93-94 repeat or something similar unfortunately. I'd be fine with a 2008-09 type winter this year even if it doesn't get started until January.

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I know, but lately it seems to be mild around the time the ball drops

It has been awhile since December completely stunk or was above average temperature wise and below normal snow wise and January 1 - February 28/29 rocked and rolled with snow and cold. Last year was great as was 2009-10 but I am all for a dud December if we can get a solid January-February (and I mean the entire months of January and February).

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Even the Euro today at 168 hours is considerably warmer at 850 than it was 3 days ago at 240 hours, that just goes to show every model has a climo/cold bias in winter regardless of how poor the AO/NAO may be. On another note, this pattern reminds me so much of early December 1993.

Me Likey :rolleyes:

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Anyone else feel like all we're hearing anymore with regards to the Euro is "Day 10 looks good." Just seems like we're not making any progress to get that good "day 10" closer than ten days away. *Sigh*

Its better than seeing a massive SE ridge or zonal pattern though, at least both models agree on general trofiness in the eastern portion of the country for about the next 2 weeks or so. I still anticipate there is going to be a massive blow torch and SE ridge at some point mid-late month similar to what we saw in 1984 or 1990, I know either HM or one of the other Mets also mentioned this a day or two ago in the main thread as well that the 15th-25th period is a strong candidate for at least a moderately mild pattern in the East.

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