Itunis Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 They always get nailed. It is our turn. Making up for last winter, huh? I was surprised to see that State College and Boston average about the same snowfall. I was sure that Boston would average more due to latitude and better placement for coastal storms (as long as they aren't running along the coast!). Either way, a couple inches that will stick around a few days will be a nice start to winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Am I glad to be at PSU-Hazleton for this one...over 1500ft ASL. I'll be checking Lion Cam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Making up for last winter, huh? I was surprised to see that State College and Boston average about the same snowfall. I was sure that Boston would average more due to latitude and better placement for coastal storms (as long as they aren't running along the coast!). Either way, a couple inches that will stick around a few days will be a nice start to winter. Winter started on Halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 12Z GFS rolling. Lets see if it finally comes on board with its ensembles and everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Slightly off topic but SNE is having a collective mental breakdown right now...I feel bad that they likely won't get a storm out of this but at least we tend to have class! I don't. They have some great mets, but I could never deal with many of the regular posters and their attitudes during the winter...it's bad. I'm keeping my expectations pretty low with this upcoming storm, at least until 00z this evening...too many things can still go wrong. I am expecting at least a light accumulation, anything else will be a bonus at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Winter started on Halloween Pfft. That's the type of storm we'd get back in Georgia. Snows hard with marginal temps, a slushy few inches that melts in a day. Still was cool, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 No it is either rain or snow. No worries of sleet. I wouldn't go that harshly. While it is true that the change over will be quick, I would not be surprised at all that some people report snow pellets or mixed precip. for a period of time. Especially east of I-81. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I don't. They have some great mets, but I could never deal with many of the regular posters and their attitudes during the winter...it's bad. I'm keeping my expectations pretty low with this upcoming storm, at least until 00z this evening...too many things can still go wrong. I am expecting at least a light accumulation, anything else will be a bonus at this point. Central PA thread > New England....even when some of us whine, we can offer a complaint thread and overall, I like everyone here. Back to weather, looks like the GFS is a bit warmer, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 GFS folds. A little warmer than NAM but, that it to be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Central PA thread > New England....even when some of us whine, we can offer a complaint thread and overall, I like everyone here. Back to weather, looks like the GFS is a bit warmer, no? 850 temps to me seem a bit too high. The precip is falling hard and I think it would cool off quicker. First run of GFS getting the precip where it needs to be. Lets see if it cools off in later runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 does that gfs show it a little more north? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 does that gfs show it a little more north? Yeah, still a little further SE than the NAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmister Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 12z GFS has the storm at almost the same location and strength as last night's 00z Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 12z GFS has the storm at almost the same location and strength as last night's 00z Euro. Temps seem to really be an issue on this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Is this going to be the year of the Euro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Is this going to be the year of the Euro? No. The euro just found that solution last night while nam and gfs has it in periods before hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Clouds Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Wow JB is going hard! Essentially, he has 3 inches from just N/W of DC northeast to just N/W of Philly to NYC to BOS, back to like Pittsburgh on northeast. Inside that is a 6-12 inch band from northeastern KY through WV south-central PA, lower susquehanna valley, poconos, southern New England into Maine. Inside that band is up to 12+" in the moutains of WV, MD, and southern PA, and picks up again in the Poconos through upstate NY and western Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Temps seem to really be an issue on this run. It's one run. Might have over corrected. We shall see. Plenty cold up your way. Still ok for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Wow JB is going hard! Essentially, he has 3 inches from just N/W of DC northeast to just N/W of Philly to NYC to BOS, back to like Pittsburgh on northeast. Inside that is a 6-12 inch band from northeastern KY through WV south-central PA, lower susquehanna valley, poconos, southern New England into Maine. Inside that band is up to 12+" in the moutains of WV, MD, and southern PA, and picks up again in the Poconos through upstate NY and western Mass. He is on crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Clouds Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 So this is most likely going to start as rain for most of us in the Susquehanna Valley? Anyone know when the rain would start tomorrow evening and then also change over to snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 So this is most likely going to start as rain for most of us in the Susquehanna Valley? Anyone know when the rain would start tomorrow evening and then also change over to snow? It's raining now and will continue through tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Its La Nina, things will generally trend westward as the event gets closer. GFS spells out a rainy scenario with little back end snow for anyone east of the great valley region. Things should be pretty locked in now with some few minor adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PottercountyWXobserver Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 My ex-wife is from Ridgway, I'd say you're incorrect about parts of 7 - they often do pretty well in lake effect. Elk County isn't exactly a snow desert. Same with zone 9, especially western half. Meadville sometimes does better than Erie for snow. They average 70 inches of snow. You tell someone in southern Crawford County they don't get lake effect and they'd pat you on the head and say "You're cute, kid." Yes I probably could of extented the line south of Crawford County, I realise they get Lake Effect snow but not as much as the places I outlined, they only cash in on NW events. Plus Crawford County doesn't do well in CAD events thus is why I put them in the region I did. Elk County is another boardline county that I prob could fix but In general isn't that great for snow compared to the surrounding areas. They miss most "heavy" lake effect events and don't get Nor Easters, they totally rely on CAD and Ohio Valley runners for most of their snow. In general my map is pretty darn close to how everything sets up and I will make a touch of adjustments to what you said but in general everything is realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 It's raining now and will continue through tomorrow. raining pretty decent right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 lol these precip fields are gonna kill me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Clouds Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 It's raining now and will continue through tomorrow. Well I know that, but this is not the wave that will ride up the cold front tomorrow night! Any guesses on when the changeover will take place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Well I know that, but this is not the wave that will ride up the cold front tomorrow night! Any guesses on when the changeover will take place? Probably between 7-9pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 raining pretty decent right now Are you now going to tell us Christmas trees are for sale at Wal-Mart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Are you now going to tell us Christmas trees are for sale at Wal-Mart? no why, lol? do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 just getting in, busy morning. where we at? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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