EasternUSWX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 South Central regions are only going to see 3-5 hrs of snow probably but, it will be falling at 1-2" per hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:05 PM, sauss06 said: That explains alot! Reminds me....when we get a slow weather period we should plan a GTG for next month somewhere. I know I mentioned it before but we should just go for it. Have to figure out a location that's good for everyone and then maybe book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:06 PM, JamieOber said: Reminds me....when we get a slow weather period we should plan a GTG for next month somewhere. I know I mentioned it before but we should just go for it. Have to figure out a location that's good for everyone and then maybe book it. Sounds good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:05 PM, EasternUSWX said: South Central regions are only going to see 3-5 hrs of snow probably but, it will be falling at 1-2" per hr. i had read that it may change over sooner, yes/No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:05 PM, JamieOber said: Ha, that's great stuff. I bet the top floor lounge area with the giant wall of screens will be hoppin' You guys seen the RUC? nice. Yep. Might even walk over there from East if there's snow in the air. But yeah, the RUC looks great. One thing-how will the very wet ground impact accum? I assume the saturated ground will eat up some snow, at least until the rates get going. Hopefully the poor ski resort down the road from here will finally get a base of snow that they can build on with manmade snow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:09 PM, sauss06 said: i had read that it may change over sooner, yes/No? Where did you read that? Looks like a change over around 7 p.m. around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:10 PM, EasternUSWX said: Where did you read that? Looks like a change over around 7 p.m. around here. I'm not sure, i think another thread! I knew you had said between 7-9, so i just wanted to confirm and maybe plan my beer drinking around that. . So you're saying about 3-5 hours of heavy snow maybe, should be over then after midnight-ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:13 PM, sauss06 said: I'm not sure, i think another thread! I knew you had said between 7-9, so i just wanted to confirm and maybe plan my beer drinking around that. . So you're saying about 3-5 hours of heavy snow maybe, should be over then after midnight-ish Ya fastest snow storm ever. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlislePaWx Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:08 PM, sauss06 said: Sounds good! Count me in!! How about somewhere around Lewistown on the 322 corridor??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Good news is it is snowing in Julian, KY at 33 degree. Forecast was for 37 and rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlislePaWx Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:06 PM, JamieOber said: Reminds me....when we get a slow weather period we should plan a GTG for next month somewhere. I know I mentioned it before but we should just go for it. Have to figure out a location that's good for everyone and then maybe book it. see prev post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:10 PM, Itunis said: Yep. Might even walk over there from East if there's snow in the air. But yeah, the RUC looks great. One thing-how will the very wet ground impact accum? I assume the saturated ground will eat up some snow, at least until the rates get going. Hopefully the poor ski resort down the road from here will finally get a base of snow that they can build on with manmade snow... Learned you can never really tell how wet ground impacts things. Sometimes it does, other times not so much. It didn't seem to that much in October even after temps in the 60s a few days before. BTW, whoa, look at that bright banding to our west and south. On 12/7/2011 at 3:18 PM, CarlislePaWx said: Count me in!! How about somewhere around Lewistown on the 322 corridor??? Good idea. We can talk more once the weather calms down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:23 PM, JamieOber said: Learned you can never really tell how wet ground impacts things. Sometimes it does, other times not so much. It didn't seem to that much in October even after temps in the 60s a few days before. BTW, whoa, look at that bright banding to our west and south. Good idea. We can talk more once the weather calms down. Bright banding? Seems way too early for there to be that kinda stuff. Maybe to the west I can believe it, where UL temps are cooler, but not to our south where 850s are well above 0C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:25 PM, Itunis said: Bright banding? Seems way too early for there to be that kinda stuff. Maybe to the west I can believe it, where UL temps are cooler, but not to our south where 850s are well above 0C. More like to our southwest: http://www.wundergro...w=0&lightning=0 Is that due to higher elevations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Here is weenie radar #1 of the day. Picking up on the change over in KY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Why I am I so skeptical of this storm? I feel like Ji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billabong Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:25 PM, Itunis said: Bright banding? Seems way too early for there to be that kinda stuff. Maybe to the west I can believe it, where UL temps are cooler, but not to our south where 850s are well above 0C. I'm pretty sure it's bright banding. Check out scans at other angles. Freezing level looks to be about 7,000 feet or so out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmister Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 I can believe those brightband signals we see. Bright banding is just the increased reflectivity that a radar detects from melting snow. The combination of ice and liquid together returns a stronger signal to the radar. If you really want to, you can calculate roughly the melting height by using the distance from the radar to the bright band area and also the inclination of the radar (0.5 degrees). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Still 50f here. Temps just are not crashing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 49 here 0.51" of rain so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 woke up to temps at 50 down from 56 at 7 am with a slight north wind. predictions..Mdt 3.5 inches, lns 1 in, altoona 6 inches, unv 4.5 in, ipt 4 in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:37 PM, Atomixwx said: Still 50f here. Temps just are not crashing yet. Same here but, it is only 11 a.m. snow not till wish. So as long as they drop at some pint before then. I think after 2 p.m. they will start sliding down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Looks like JST turns over around 1-2 p.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 38.5 here with moderate rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmister Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 For those of you who still care what the global models show, the GFS is cooler on the 12z than 6z. Every degree will count! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itunis Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 3:36 PM, Jmister said: I can believe those brightband signals we see. Bright banding is just the increased reflectivity that a radar detects from melting snow. The combination of ice and liquid together returns a stronger signal to the radar. If you really want to, you can calculate roughly the melting height by using the distance from the radar to the bright band area and also the inclination of the radar (0.5 degrees). Yeah, that makes sense. Johnstown's at 36 so the snow isn't far from the ground there. Also note the high reflectivity values over us on the composite radar-is there snow a few thousand feet above us that the higher-angle beams are catching melting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 My mom and sister went down I-88 -> I-81 all the way to Jonesville, PA today - probably leave there around 3:00 PM to head home. That changeover to snow could affect them somewhere along the higher spots on 81 either in PA or into NY State early evening. I'll watch this thread for any obs. As I recall it gets rather high on that road in places. On 12/7/2011 at 4:22 PM, hckyplayer8 said: Hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 4:29 PM, Logan11 said: My mom and sister went down I-88 -> I-81 all the way to Jonesville, PA today - probably leave there around 3:00 PM to head home. That changeover to snow could affect them somewhere along the higher spots on 81 either in PA or into NY State early evening. I'll watch this thread for any obs. As I recall it gets rather high on that road in places. this will be helpful for you http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Internet/Districts/DistrictGraphics.nsf/TrafficCamerasMap?OpenForm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckyplayer8 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 On 12/7/2011 at 4:29 PM, Logan11 said: My mom and sister went down I-88 -> I-81 all the way to Jonesville, PA today - probably leave there around 3:00 PM to head home. That changeover to snow could affect them somewhere along the higher spots on 81 either in PA or into NY State early evening. I'll watch this thread for any obs. As I recall it gets rather high on that road in places. Yeah. Not sure were Jonesville is but once you get above Ravine, I81 is 1k or more feet in elevation. Depending on how well Penny-Doofus-Dot does clearing the roads, expecting at least a moderate impact event. With temps continuing to fall as the storm moves out, def would pack smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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