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Part II, Thanksgiving week transient cold shot and the pattern beyond

Typhoon Tip

By Typhoon Tip,
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TalcottWx

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Shockingly cold when I stepped off the plane two days ago. Loved seeing my breath and seeing the cold air. No wonder there was turbulence with the surge of cold air into New England. Then I even got to see some wet flakes falling that evening! Spent some time with the family Wednesday and Thursday and then drove up to NH on Thursday night to see some friends from Bridgton. Woke up early today in the nice crisp air and drove back up early and had the pleasure of driving around the Back Bay and Downtown. Even got to see the disgusting area Occupy Boston is... well... occupying. Wish I could stay but we have a national championship to win. Four more games and I get my second ring of the 2011 season. If we do make the trip to Friso TX for the National Championship game I won't be home till almost January 10th. If we lose beforehand I will get to come home. So excited for winter and what will come. I want to fast forward to Dec 10th or so.

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ski MRG

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Pete the guys I ski with are recreational like I am and they ski every trail a mountain has to offer whether it be Burke, SR, Cannon, Jay Peak or the mountains out west. I think this will be year 4 for me and at the end of last year there wasn't a trail on the mountain I wouldn't hit. Over time my proficiency is increasing pretty quickly. At the same time I'm not going to spend $49 for a lift ticket to ski a couple of trails like today. To take a family of four and spend the night - I'd much rather take the kids to NYC again, go on a cruise or take them to a hockey game and show in Boston. Doesn't mean I don't like skiing just as much as you. It just means there's a value tradeoff for me. Skiing on 50% or more open terrain is well worth it to me, skiing a few trails....I'll put that money towards front row seats at the Rockettes Xmas show or a luxury hotel somewhere before I'll ski. Doesn't mean I don't like it, just want to show my kids more than a ski slope. So long as we can fight off the warmth the ski resorts will be fine up north. If snow doesn't fall in the cities all the better for me because rentals will be cheaper and the mountain less crowded. Remember I can't put kids in the car overnight, I'm looking for ski in/ski out places where I can enjoy the time with my kids - sled at night on the trails without getting tossed off, fireworks, some good food etc.

You've got more years on me for sure father time, but I've lived through some good ones. Being around Foxboro/Easton in the blizzard of 78, coming off a plane from Aruba to the blizzard of 97 in the same area, the blizzard of 2005 down here and some pretty good 80's storms like the night of the Hagler fight in Worcester. Be good to see one huge storm this winter though. I really want to try to time a ski trip up north with a blizzard up there.

HAve fun watching the Rockettes.

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weathafella

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You've got more years on me for sure father time, but I've lived through some good ones. Being around Foxboro/Easton in the blizzard of 78, coming off a plane from Aruba to the blizzard of 97 in the same area, the blizzard of 2005 down here and some pretty good 80's storms like the night of the Hagler fight in Worcester. Be good to see one huge storm this winter though. I really want to try to time a ski trip up north with a blizzard up there.

I'll never forget your play by play during and right after the January 2005 blizzard. It was fabulous and you got something like 3 feet with gusts 80 mph. Tough to EVER top that one.

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HoarfrostHubb

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I had my turn of a lifetime last year, Phils turn for that ala 05. I am good for life after last year. One good storm this year is all I ask for.

I think I might have had my biggie already. But SWFE and volume is all I need. Near normal is fine for temps, too, with a few bitter ones to preserve things.

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Clinch Leatherwood

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HAve fun watching the Rockettes.

I'll hate it but my kids will love it and that's what this is about for me. I get 1 or 2 trips a year to myself/with the guys on the mountain. The rest of the time it's family. What am I going to do with my 3 yr old on these slopes right now? Here honey go ski down that diamond...yeah I know it's your first time on skis but your flexible at this age and the trees only hurt for the first few seconds? Did your folks drop you at the top of the mountain when you were 3? I doubt it. You couldn't have skied at this point in the season either back then.

I'll never forget your play by play during and right after the January 2005 blizzard. It was fabulous and you got something like 3 feet with gusts 80 mph. Tough to EVER top that one.

That was a fun night. I wish NOAA would standardize their regional sites. I can go to OKX and see everything http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/stormtotals.html but cannot find a similar page at Box.

Best part of that storm was the road crews in Hyannis bulldozing cars. People were so pissed.

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dendrite

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Scooter, Phil, Brian. How accurate have the 2AG temps been on the Euro on Wunderground? Helluva way to run a torch. teens to single digits Friday.

For some reason their line contours often don't match up with their shaded ones. I'm not sure why that is.

It's obviously way out there, but the op is even colder at d10...widespread lows in the single digits. It's nice to at least see wintertime temps popping up in the long range.

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weathafella

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I'll hate it but my kids will love it and that's what this is about for me. I get 1 or 2 trips a year to myself/with the guys on the mountain. The rest of the time it's family. What am I going to do with my 3 yr old on these slopes right now? Here honey go ski down that diamond...yeah I know it's your first time on skis but your flexible at this age and the trees only hurt for the first few seconds? Did your folks drop you at the top of the mountain when you were 3? I doubt it. You couldn't have skied at this point in the season either back then.

That was a fun night. I wish NOAA would standardize their regional sites. I can go to OKX and see everything http://www.erh.noaa....tormtotals.html but cannot find a similar page at Box.

Best part of that storm was the road crews in Hyannis bulldozing cars. People were so pissed.

BOX has it:

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/box/snow-info2.shtml

Pretty fooking impressive!!!

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/box/climate/snowrpts/snowstormJan2224-2005

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HAH This brings back the memory of Xmas week 1984 when my parents took us down to NYC for the holidays. We did the Met Museum, holiday store displays, then we walked through Times Square and the place was just a total Porno zone....quite eye opening LOL.. Hookers all over.... You can't even believe what that place was like before Giuliani cleaned it up.

Oh and that was a crazy week wx-wise. NYC got like 5 or 6 inches in a gloried warm frontal event. After the mild air came it hit like 70-75 there during that Xmas week. Those were the Thankless 80's years.....

I'll hate it but my kids will love it and that's what this is about for me. I get 1 or 2 trips a year to myself/with the guys on the mountain. The rest of the time it's family. What am I going to do with my 3 yr old on these slopes right now? Here honey go ski down that diamond...yeah I know it's your first time on skis but your flexible at this age and the trees only hurt for the first few seconds? Did your folks drop you at the top of the mountain when you were 3? I doubt it. You couldn't have skied at this point in the season either back then.

That was a fun night. I wish NOAA would standardize their regional sites. I can go to OKX and see everything http://www.erh.noaa....tormtotals.html but cannot find a similar page at Box.

Best part of that storm was the road crews in Hyannis bulldozing cars. People were so pissed.

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weathafella

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HAH This brings back the memory of Xmas week 1984 when my parents took us down to NYC for the holidays. We did the Met Museum, holiday store displays, then we walked through Times Square and the place was just a total Porno zone....quite eye opening LOL.. Hookers all over.... You can't even believe what that place was like before Giuliani cleaned it up.

I was in NYC then! I was living in LA and had spent 10 days in the USVI, home of my ex for the kids to visit grandma and the adults to have a very nice vacation. I was looking forwrd to seeing some winter in the NYC area but it was quite mild. There were some renegade piles of old snow so I'm thinking maybe earlier in December there was a better pattern that year?

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Logan11

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Well that snowfall preceded the huge warm up by only a few days as I recall so maybe they were residual piles from that.

I can't really remember any decent snowfalls that winter....certainly wasn't very good.

I was in NYC then! I was living in LA and had spent 10 days in the USVI, home of my ex for the kids to visit grandma and the adults to have a very nice vacation. I was looking forwrd to seeing some winter in the NYC area but it was quite mild. There were some renegade piles of old snow so I'm thinking maybe earlier in December there was a better pattern that year?

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Looks like Tuesday 11/29 could be quite the warm morning depending on timing. On the 12z gfs it looks like 55-60F region wide temperatures for 12z on Tuesday.

The cold is definitely held back...on the 6z run it had areas in NNE and western SNE changing over to snow but it doesn't even look close to doing that on this run.

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Looks like Tuesday 11/29 could be quite the warm morning depending on timing. On the 12z gfs it looks like 55-60F region wide temperatures for 12z on Tuesday.

The cold is definitely held back...on the 6z run it had areas in NNE and western SNE changing over to snow but it doesn't even look close to doing that on this run.

Its moving towards the Euro and i would take the Euros solution over the GFS right now..

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dryslot

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it's similar to the euro ensemble...which puts New England into the warm air. The euro op was pretty far in left field with cutting off that 546 dm upper level low in Louisiana.

Just going by the op, I can't see the ensembles for the Euro at least on SV anyways, Seems like all the models are handling the cutoff differently

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Clinch Leatherwood

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On the gfs, in the next 10 days Friday 12/2 is probably the only day that gets all of SNE below 30 (well below...probably 10F for Pete)...even though ORH for this week averages like 23/41 or something and BOS averages like 30/46. This week could average like +10 for the whole week.

Extent of the cold outbreak was overplayed on the OP earlier runs...it did it's usual freakout around the 180h. Coming back to normal now.

Pete may not get above 20 the rest of the year, but the rest of us are going to have some warmer days ahead.

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