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Upstate NY/North Country -> Into Winter 2011-12


Logan11

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Its been snowing pretty hard in Liverpool near the Lockheed facility, looks like we have 1-2", haven't measured. Its blowing around pretty good, really feels like winter. Thinking of hitting Togg later this afternoon for some skiing. Luckily my boss and a good chunk of chunk of my coworkers are off.

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I just got back from Little Valley, NY down at my friend's cabin. Seems like the storm itself failed pretty much everywhere. Even in downtown Ellicottville it was still a rain/snow mix and 35 degrees at 10pm. We did pretty well with the upslope/lake-effect. Had about 3" of snow when I left at 12:30pm...strong winds gave about 1 ft drifts...very wintry but not a heavy snow event by any means.

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Wasn't trying to be rude, just wanted to make sure I was in right forum. Montreal is 8 hours away from me. That is like having the same people in Chicago thread as Buffalo, just doesn't make much sense! And Logan, trust me nothing compares to LES snowstorms, I would not rank any synoptic systems I have been thru in 20 years in my top 20 snowfalls. All are LES events.

what about march 2008 and the blizzard of 1993?

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what about march 2008 and the blizzard of 1993?

I got in a horrible car accident in the storm in March 2008 and it was a long lasting moderate snow event, no truly heavy snow, and the Blizzard of 1993 Buffalo was on the northwestern portion of the storm. Also, I was only 6 at the time, don't remember it enough. In terms of 24 hour snow events, all top 20 for me are LES snowstorms.

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I got in a horrible car accident in the storm in March 2008 and it was a long lasting moderate snow event, no truly heavy snow, and the Blizzard of 1993 Buffalo was on the northwestern portion of the storm. Also, I was only 6 at the time, don't remember it enough. In terms of 24 hour snow events, all top 20 for me are LES snowstorms.

yeah but we got 19" or something in March 2008. I think 1993 we got 17".

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WITH THE COLDER TEMPERATURES...THERE WILL ALSO BE THE POTENTIAL FOR

PERSISTENT LAKE EFFECT SNOWS. MODELS DIFFER QUITE A BIT ON WIND

DIRECTION AND SPEED...SO ITS DIFFICULT TO GET TOO SPECIFIC ON

LOCATIONS...OTHER THAN THE TYPICAL LAKE EFFECT AREAS WOULD BE THE

MOST LIKELY LOCATIONS TO WATCH. FOR NOW...WILL CARRY CHANCE POPS

MONDAY AND TUESDAY. HIGH PRESSURE IS FORECAST TO BUILD ACROSS THE

REGION BY WEDNESDAY...WITH DRY BUT COOL WEATHER EXPECTED.

Finally the cold air needed to really kick up the record breaking Lake Erie temperatures will come next week. Lake Erie is 43 degrees today, setting a new high record for this date!

Here comes KBUFs 60 inch January!!!!! =)

And OSU you think my 4 inch December total will hold??? =P

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That's cool. I was in Little Valley last October searching records at the Cattaraugus County Courthouse. It's a nice little village - Fall foliage was peaking back then. Must be nice in the snow.

I just got back from Little Valley, NY down at my friend's cabin. Seems like the storm itself failed pretty much everywhere. Even in downtown Ellicottville it was still a rain/snow mix and 35 degrees at 10pm. We did pretty well with the upslope/lake-effect. Had about 3" of snow when I left at 12:30pm...strong winds gave about 1 ft drifts...very wintry but not a heavy snow event by any means.

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It's been squalling here off and on leaving dustings that promptly blow into oblivion. But this multi-band spray can't carry this far with any decent echoes. We need a single band or two - focused down the Mohawk Valley to get a few inches.

Just a smidge north of me I see one band has managed 20 dbz echoes so that is probably actually making something.

Down to 20.5F now and wind chill must be zero or below.

Got my first snow squall of the week in Colonie. Seems to be lake effect and an added boost from a trailing vort max or two behind the lead shortwave.

Back across the Hudson again, JUST a hair too far east to get into the squally action. :thumbsdown:

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Could be next to the toasty lake out there...but I don't know that microclimate. I'd probably be ok here at 1000 feet - assuming it doesn't trend north.

Aren't the surface temperatures to high to generate any accumulations of snow. The latest Buffalo discussions mentions a mix of rain/snow, and under .25 qpf.

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I'm not ready to give up yet at 1k feet. It's not like we have a strong system here.... Yesterday all that rain occurred with temps 32.5F to 34F here.

The NAM bufkit profile for ALB shows all rain and mostly rain for GFL with a brief period of snow at the end of the event. The clipper will have to track further south for snow in the valleys.

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Devin did you heat up the lake again? it went up to 43F! :thumbsup:

YES!! Its nice to have the lake at an extremely toasty 43 for lake effect events but for Synoptic events it kinda sucks because it'll keep the air around it too warm for snow during marginal temp situations...

I'm hoping somewhere in WNY can pick up a few feet of snow next week so I can chase it. Doubtful though.

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YES!! Its nice to have the lake at an extremely toasty 43 for lake effect events but for Synoptic events it kinda sucks because it'll keep the air around it too warm for snow during marginal temp situations...

I'm hoping somewhere in WNY can pick up a few feet of snow next week so I can chase it. Doubtful though.

would be cool if those gfs temps verify,i wanna see how the lake reacts to those type of temps!@

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