CT Rain Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Retrograding pac ridge FTL. 18z GEFS has an above normal (but not torch) look around day 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Retrograding pac ridge FTL. 18z GEFS has an above normal (but not torch) look around day 15. The members on ewall are interesting. They look pretty chilly, but you can see how we could have some messy events too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 No new plants here, but the grass is still growing and the seed I put down in early October continues to grow and darken. It's gorgeous here again tonight. Ticks on the other hand are raging right now. It's horrendous. As far as the PAC Ridge this sums up the apparent pattern post 12/12ish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEZv0FUPtcc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I'm sure I'd succumb and pay to go sometimes if it was something I really had developed an affinity for over the years... I haven't gone to a pro baseball game since I was a teenager in the 80's and of course I'm 150 miles from the nearest pro venue. So you don't miss what you never really did..... I find it hard to accept the absurdity of people like Arod making $20 million a year etc. I have always been a pro market and capitalism guy because it is clearly the best most efficient system. But I feel there has been (at some point) a general loss of any decency and morality in many business areas. It's a very harsh form of capitalism now ...gone somewhat full circle from the Robber Barrons era of the 1890's to the kinda and gentler post WW II era to what we have today. And hey we have a concentration of wealth back to pre-1929 crash levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wx4cast Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Should be tons of Tics available in Sept I say August.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Retrograding pac ridge FTL. 18z GEFS has an above normal (but not torch) look around day 15. No new plants here, but the grass is still growing and the seed I put down in early October continues to grow and darken. It's gorgeous here again tonight. Ticks on the other hand are raging right now. It's horrendous. As far as the PAC Ridge this sums up the apparent pattern post 12/12ish http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEZv0FUPtcc It's still a cold look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I'm sure I'd succumb and pay to go sometimes if it was something I really had developed an affinity for over the years... I haven't gone to a pro baseball game since I was a teenager in the 80's and of course I'm 150 miles from the nearest pro venue. So you don't miss what you never really did..... I find it hard to accept the absurdity of people like Arod making $20 million a year etc. I have always been a pro market and capitalism guy because it is clearly the best most efficient system. But I feel there has been (at some point) a general loss of any decency and morality in many business areas. It's a very harsh form of capitalism now ...gone somewhat full circle from the Robber Barrons era of the 1890's to the kinda and gentler post WW II era to what we have today. And hey we have a concentration of wealth back to pre-1929 crash levels. I've got news for you.....capitalism is what made this country great....the very essence of it is individualism and independance. Is it all roses, no...neither is life. Survival of the fittest.....and this coming from a dude who has been down on the mat since completing grad school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 It's still a cold look Not really. It's an average to somewhat above average look. Torch is gone though. I am worried with that setup of a bad storm track for us... particularly in the CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 I'm sure I'd succumb and pay to go sometimes if it was something I really had developed an affinity for over the years... I haven't gone to a pro baseball game since I was a teenager in the 80's and of course I'm 150 miles from the nearest pro venue. So you don't miss what you never really did..... I find it hard to accept the absurdity of people like Arod making $20 million a year etc. I have always been a pro market and capitalism guy because it is clearly the best most efficient system. But I feel there has been (at some point) a general loss of any decency and morality in many business areas. It's a very harsh form of capitalism now ...gone somewhat full circle from the Robber Barrons era of the 1890's to the kinda and gentler post WW II era to what we have today. And hey we have a concentration of wealth back to pre-1929 crash levels. Eh, I know what you mean, but the fans do drive it. They wouldn't be dishing it out if the fans weren't pumping it into the system. Even so, the fact that I do not go often makes it a special feeling when you do go to a game. When you are a big fan and you have the opportunity to watch your team play, it's special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Not really. It's an average to somewhat above average look. Torch is gone though. I am worried with that setup of a bad storm track for us... particularly in the CP. How many lows took great tracks in 2007.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 How many lows took great tracks in 2007.... I'm hopeful things break right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I've got news for you.....capitalism is what made this country great....the very essence of it is individualism and independance. Is it all roses, no...neither is life. Survival of the fittest.....and this coming from a dude who has been down on the mat since completing grad school. Yes but the capitalism we have now breeds an extreme inequality resembling the Robber Baron 1880s and the Roaring Twenties, both of which led to large problems within the market and eventually structural reforms. Ever since the 1960s, income inequality has been rising in America, and we've seen one of the consequences of the extreme greed of Wall Street and the financial instability of the income gap in the crash of 2008, closely related to the mortgage crisis. There needs to be much more of a balance between encouraging market creativity/innovation and also ensuring the wealth gap doesn't get out of control, which leads to larger socioeconomic problems like the housing fallout, crime, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The pattern definitely does not look cold. It does look colder. If I had to pick a place that could cash in it would certainly be northern New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Yes but the capitalism we have now breeds an extreme inequality resembling the Robber Baron 1880s and the Roaring Twenties, both of which led to large problems within the market and eventually structural reforms. Ever since the 1960s, income inequality has been rising in America, and we've seen one of the consequences of the extreme greed of Wall Street and the financial instability of the income gap in the crash of 2008, closely related to the mortgage crisis. There needs to be much more of a balance between encouraging market creativity/innovation and also ensuring the wealth gap doesn't get out of control, which leads to larger socioeconomic problems like the housing fallout, crime, etc. I wouldn't be shocked if we do see reforms. A system can only last so long before eventual major reforms happen, as you noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The pattern definitely does not look cold. It does look colder. If I had to pick a place that could cash in it would certainly be northern New England. I think you guys got hosed in 2007-08.....in fact 20 miles south of the Pike was the difference between a decent and crappy winter. That said, it's still damned early and a lot of great years don't get going before late December.....even last year snow wise at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I think you guys got hosed in 2007-08.....in fact 20 miles south of the Pike was the difference between a decent and crappy winter. That said, it's still damned early and a lot of great years don't get going before late December.....even last year snow wise at least. Oh yeah... I'm definitely not in the cancel winter camp. Just talking about the next 20 days or so and how the pattern looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 The pattern definitely does not look cold. It does look colder. If I had to pick a place that could cash in it would certainly be northern New England. Yeah I think NNE is usually a given in these setups. I think this whole thing has been beaten to a pulp...lol. It's been hashed out countless times, now we just see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I wouldn't be shocked if we do see reforms. A system can only last so long before eventual major reforms happen, as you noted. Scott all we've done in the last five or six years with the reforms is push the buck back. We haven't fixed anything. Credit Default Swaps are still a time bomb waiting to go off. We allow wall street to bet with money they dont have and when they totally mess up we bail them out with public money. Moral hazard. capitalism made the country great but that isn't what we have right now. We have the top eschelon of society screwing the rest. I'm not an OWS type of guy, but the last 11-12 years....if we don't undo what's been done the country is doomed to being an also ran like Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I thought I started by saying I believed in capitalism ...I just think at one point businesses put more moral and ethical restraints on themselves... benefits to their workers, some decency in pricing things etc. This is a harsher form than when I was a kid. I'm not an occupy wall street type that wants to end capitalism. I want to make it work better and I want it to trickle down to more people. I've got news for you.....capitalism is what made this country great....the very essence of it is individualism and independance. Is it all roses, no...neither is life. Survival of the fittest.....and this coming from a dude who has been down on the mat since completing grad school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 Scott all we've done in the last five or six years with the reforms is push the buck back. We haven't fixed anything. Credit Default Swaps are still a time bomb waiting to go off. We allow wall street to bet with money they dont have and when they totally mess up we bail them out with public money. Moral hazard. capitalism made the country great but that isn't what we have right now. We have the top eschelon of society screwing the rest. I'm not an OWS type of guy, but the last 11-12 years....if we don't undo what's been done the country is doomed to being an also ran like Italy. Reforms, overhaul...whatever you want to call it. Eventually enough people are pissed off and things happen. I think that's what your implying, indirectly. Look at Europe to see how socialism is working out...you can't go down that road either. Anyways, politics suck so we'll stick to the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Yeah I think NNE is usually a given in these setups. I think this whole thing has been beaten to a pulp...lol. It's been hashed out countless times, now we just see what happens. lol yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Yes but the capitalism we have now breeds an extreme inequality resembling the Robber Baron 1880s and the Roaring Twenties, both of which led to large problems within the market and eventually structural reforms. Ever since the 1960s, income inequality has been rising in America, and we've seen one of the consequences of the extreme greed of Wall Street and the financial instability of the income gap in the crash of 2008, closely related to the mortgage crisis. There needs to be much more of a balance between encouraging market creativity/innovation and also ensuring the wealth gap doesn't get out of control, which leads to larger socioeconomic problems like the housing fallout, crime, etc. Like I said, capitalism is not perfect, NOTHING is...but it is the best system. The problem with what you are suggesting is it's essentially collectivism....you can not put the welfare of the group before that of your own because to do that is inimical to self esteem, which is the foundation of success in all facets of life. Go overboard in the direction that you are suggesting and you begin to cultivate a society full of dependant individuals, which imo is part of the reason why the country is in a downward spiral today....too many handouts. The unltimate paradox here is the folks keep pissing and moaning about how "cold and immoral" capitalism is, but it was idustrialization that provided the impetus for the women's right movement.....once society no longer viewed them as inferior beings, it paved the road for romanitc love as contemporary society knows it. The church used to rule everything......marriages were arranged......but once society became individualized as product of capitalism and industrialization, folks began to CHOSE with whom they wanted to spend the rest of their lives......love became the main determinant, not the needs of the "tribe". I get what you are saying, though.....there is a balance I am all for doing things the Costco way as opposed to the Walmart way.....but like everything else, it's a slippery slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Reforms, overhaul...whatever you want to call it. Eventually enough people are pissed off and things happen. I think that's what your implying, indirectly. Look at Europe to see how socialism is working out...you can't go down that road either. Anyways, politics suck so we'll stick to the weather. Socialism is no good. Guess what, in order to have creativty, you need death and destruction.....it's one of the main polarities of life that we must work to integrate, but there is no such thing as euphoria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Ugh. Political/economics banter Run away. Run away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Well Europe is complex..... Some countries have utterly over extended themselves like the so called PIGS countries... Others like Germany are run pretty darn well and I guess they have more socialism than here, but also a vibrant capitalist system...sort of a hybrid. But the others may drag Germany down. If I was them I'd bail on the Euro fast and bring back the Deutsche mark. Reforms, overhaul...whatever you want to call it. Eventually enough people are pissed off and things happen. I think that's what your implying, indirectly. Look at Europe to see how socialism is working out...you can't go down that road either. Anyways, politics suck so we'll stick to the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 blah who wants to talk about politics when we can talk about the +15 degree day after day departures!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Like I said, capitalism is not perfect, NOTHING is...but it is the best system. The problem with what you are suggesting is it's essentially collectivism....you can not put the welfare of the group before that of your own because to do that is inimical to self esteem, which is the foundation of success in all facets of life. Go overboard in the direction that you are suggesting and you begin to cultivate a society full of dependant individuals, which imo is part of the reason why the country is in a downward spiral today....too many handouts. The unltimate paradox here is the folks keep pissing and moaning about how "cold and immoral" capitalism is, but it was idustrialization that provided the impetus for the women's right movement.....once society no longer viewed them as inferior beings, it paved the road for romanitc love as contemporary society knows it. The church used to rule everything......marriages were arranged......but once society became individualized as product of capitalism and industrialization, folks began to CHOSE with whom they wanted to spend the rest of their lives......love became the main determinant, not the needs of the "tribe". I get what you are saying, though.....there is a balance I am all for doing things the costco way as opposed to the Walmary way.....but like everything else, it's a slippery slope. The US was most successful when its policies did encourage a degree of collectivism...from the New Deal Years into the 1960s. Income taxes were much higher, there was much more regulation of the financial markets through the Glass-Steagel Act and FDIC...but the country prospered because these reforms weren't inimical to the creativity of the market, they were just a check on the law of the jungle getting out of hand. It was when we started to repeal limits on investment banking, bundling of loans, etc that we got into trouble....and when we started to cut taxes so much that the government's ability to enact social programs was reduced. Let's face it, most of these "handouts" you so fear have been going to the rich. The highest income tax bracket went from near 70% in WWII times to 35%, the government began tax loopholes like NAFTA that benefit corporations and wealthy consumers more than anyone else, and then we somehow decided to bail out Wall Street, the people who had always claimed the "free market" was best and then immediately went clamoring for public money when things were bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 It was inevitable....the train had to go off the tracks eventually. LOL We're dying of boredom! blah who wants to talk about politics when we can talk about the +15 degree day after day departures!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Ugh. Political/economics banter Run away. Run away It is 50F out at 9:30pm on Nov 27th. What else is there to talk about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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