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Wow..New Eurotrash clobbers Lakes Region Late Thanksgiving weekend

wxhstn74

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Geos

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one of the sickest western gradients I've seen.

Too bad the western edge gradient isn't spread out more! I'm near Chicago on the edge of the 2nd shade of green!

Lake Shore Flood Advisory and Wind Advisory just posted for the Lake Michigan shoreline in IL.

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A-L-E-K

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Too bad the western edge gradient isn't spread out more! I'm near Chicago on the edge of the 2nd shade of green!

Lake Shore Flood Advisory and Wind Advisory just posted for the Lake Michigan shoreline in IL.

We're really not even close, even if QPF was doubled, warm lake waters will kill the marginal temps pretty far inland anyways. Enjoy the waves.

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Chicago WX

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Sounds to me like he's trying to salvage his call for Nov. snow. Part of me wants you guys to get over 4 inches since he seems to think there wont be a 4in + snow all winter, let alone in November. Good luck.

We'll need all the luck we can get. :D

Hopefully this thing produces for a lot of us.

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PatrickSumner

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From their recently updated AFD:

HPC GRAPHICS HAVE BACKED OFF ON 6 TO 8 INCH AMOUNTS INTO OUR AREA...LEANING TOWARDS 4 TO 6 IN FAR NORTHEAST AND LOWER AS YOU WORK SOUTH.

Weird. In the grids they have most of the CWA with less than an inch of snow, and in there SPS, they say a swath of 3-5 is possible which is actually higher than the 2-5 they were calling for earlier this morning. I am SOOOO confused...

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Weird. In the grids they have most of the CWA with less than an inch of snow, and in there SPS, they say a swath of 3-5 is possible which is actually higher than the 2-5 they were calling for earlier this morning. I am SOOOO confused...

I think they are hesitant to put it in a specific area right now so they are just broadbrushing with lower amounts.

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Weird. In the grids they have most of the CWA with less than an inch of snow, and in there SPS, they say a swath of 3-5 is possible which is actually higher than the 2-5 they were calling for earlier this morning. I am SOOOO confused...

FYI Obs:

NWS was calling for us to get up to 43. Just checked again and we were at 35 around midnight, bottomed out at 31 around 7am, and only made it up to 36 all day since.

Just a FWIW side note on temps. Also, we had heavy snow fall 10-Nov on the heels of the Low that dumped on WI. It moved in off the lake, but was heavy, wet snow (2-5") here in the KBTL area.

It was just above freezing (or right at 32) the whole time, yet the snow piled up to where plows were out on the freeway. Also, the "cement snow" stuck around almost 3 days. And the ground was at least as warm then. I was driving home from work on day three, and was amazed at the staying power of the snow covering the south side of the freeway right-of-way while my car thermometer read 62.

Just sayin', it ain't over til its over..:popcorn:

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Typical NWS making a big deal out of ground temps. They cite this as the biggest reason to only go with 1-3 inches in DTX territory.

My general observation over the years has been that it takes less then 15 minutes of steady snow to overcome ground temps.

My call 4-6 Inches with isolated 6+.

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Typical NWS making a big deal out of ground temps. They cite this as the biggest reason to only go with 1-3 inches in DTX territory.

My general observation over the years has been that it takes less then 15 minutes of steady snow to overcome ground temps.

My call 4-6 Inches with isolated 6+.

I've seen a moderate falling snow stick to the ground within half an hour the day after 60 degree temperature this time of year! Now the roads might take longer.

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I've seen a moderate falling snow stick to the ground within half an hour the day after 60 degree temperature this time of year! Now the roads might take longer.

I really just want enough snow to spin my snowmobile around a bit in the field... I don't expect much more then that. I'm happy to see the pattern change some LES can start flying in Northern lower and the U.P so I can drag my sled out there for the weekends.

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Typical NWS making a big deal out of ground temps. They cite this as the biggest reason to only go with 1-3 inches in DTX territory.

My general observation over the years has been that it takes less then 15 minutes of steady snow to overcome ground temps.

My call 4-6 Inches with isolated 6+.

There will already be ponding of water on the ground too, which will hinder accumulation.

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Geos

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FYI Obs:

NWS was calling for us to get up to 43. Just checked again and we were at 35 around midnight, bottomed out at 31 around 7am, and only made it up to 36 all day since.

Just a FWIW side note on temps. Also, we had heavy snow fall 10-Nov on the heels of the Low that dumped on WI. It moved in off the lake, but was heavy, wet snow (2-5") here in the KBTL area.

It was just above freezing (or right at 32) the whole time, yet the snow piled up to where plows were out on the freeway. Also, the "cement snow" stuck around almost 3 days. And the ground was at least as warm then. I was driving home from work on day three, and was amazed at the staying power of the snow covering the south side of the freeway right-of-way while my car thermometer read 62.

Just sayin', it ain't over til its over..:popcorn:

The air mass in place is definitely a bit colder then forecast. On the other side of the lake here it was supposed to be 42 today, but only managed 37. Back down to 34 already. This storm is going to have surprises with it! Can't wait to watch it tomorrow.

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Thunder Road

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Kind-of old news by now, but LOT put out an SPS about an hour and a half ago.

WITH SOIL TEMPERATURES IN THE 40S AND AIR TEMPERATURES GENERALLY NEAR OR JUST ABOVE FREEZING MOST OF THE SNOW WILL MELT AS IT REACHES THE GROUND. HOWEVER...THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW...WHICH IF IT OCCURS COULD COOL THE TEMPERATURES TO JUST BELOW FREEZING AND ALLOW FOR ONE TO POSSIBLY THREE INCHES OF ACCUMULATION...PARTICULARLY ON GRASSY AND ELEVATED SURFACES.

http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=INZ002&warncounty=INC127&firewxzone=INZ002&local_place1=Valparaiso+IN&product1=Special+Weather+Statement

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