dryslot Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Euro op says days and days of eating hot turkey sandwiches outside in 60s. While playing frisbee in wife beaters and banana hamocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 The NAM is doing it's best to wedge NE into cold low level air on the front end of the low...maybe because it now tracks the initial surface low so darn far west. I think Tuesday into Wedneasday is going to very raw with some FZRA and PL in the deep interior ...snow at the onset further north. Probably questionable if most of the area ever breaks out into the warm sector fully. Maybe Joe will.... Gotta like the area from Montreal east to central/northern ME for a good dump of snow with these trends. While playing frisbee in wife beaters and banana hamocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I remember back in Oct into early Novie of 2006, we had this huge NAO block and everyone was so excited about the impending winter, but the pattern flipped in November and the rest was history. Just get this pattern out by xmas and we're fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 The NAM is doing it's best to wedge NE into cold low level air on the front end of the low...maybe because it now tracks the initial surface low so darn far west. I think Tuesday into Wedneasday is going to very raw with some FZRA and PL in the deep interior ...snow at the onset further north. Probably questionable if most of the area ever breaks out into the warm sector fully. Maybe Joe will.... Gotta like the area from Montreal east to central/northern ME for a good dump of snow with these trends. I buy the wedge. This isn't going to blast 60+ air into NNE....at least imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Some of the thoughts being thrown around make me feel a little better about actually having a back half to winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 The NAM is doing it's best to wedge NE into cold low level air on the front end of the low...maybe because it now tracks the initial surface low so darn far west. I think Tuesday into Wedneasday is going to very raw with some FZRA and PL in the deep interior ...snow at the onset further north. Probably questionable if most of the area ever breaks out into the warm sector fully. Maybe Joe will.... Gotta like the area from Montreal east to central/northern ME for a good dump of snow with these trends. The Nam is the model thats tracks the low furthest west, 06Z GFS actually came SE some as it was weaker with the low 1008mb from 996 mb on its run from 00z, Northern Maine, Mtns from Milinocket north look to be in a prime spot right now here in Maine anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I buy the wedge. This isn't going to blast 60+ air into NNE....at least imo. Your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Some of the thoughts being thrown around make me feel a little better about actually having a back half to winter. Without even looking at anything, I'm in favor of that because its been so long and we're not starting early this year....freak HECS aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Some of the thoughts being thrown around make me feel a little better about actually having a back half to winter. Thats good because some were starting to worry about you yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Thats good because some were starting to worry about you yesterday I avg like 6" of snow through Dec 15.....I'm already just about there and don't have to suffer through many useless, windy 45* days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Without even looking at anything, I'm in favor of that because its been so long and we're not starting early this year....freak HECS aside. Yeah despite Kevin claiming winter is from December-February...it just isn't true. You can thank our recent rash of Nina's for helping perpetuate this assumption. However, we are eventually gonna have a good Feb-Mar period. Maybe it won't be this year...who knows, but I feel like we may actually have a better chance of something this February or March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Thats good because some were starting to worry about you yesterday I don't know why...I'm fine..lol. It is what it is unfortunately. You can't spin a crappy patttern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Yeah despite Kevin claiming winter is from December-February...it just isn't true. You can thanks our recent rash of Nina's for helping perpetuate this assumption. However, we are eventually gonna have a good Feb-Mar period. Maybe it won't be this year...who knows, but I feel like we may actually have a better chance of something this February or March. I was speaking anecdotally, but were the "ideas" you were alluding to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Some serious early season cold. My buddy in Willow had the dishes in his kitchen sink freeze. Can't wait for this cold to dislodge and head toward us ...RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE IN ANCHORAGE AND BITTER COLD TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE REGION... COLD TEMPERATURES ALOFT COMBINED WITH A NIGHT OF CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS HAVE ALLOWED TEMPERATURES TO PLUMMET ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL ALASKA. CLOUDS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE TONIGHT AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING FRONT FROM THE SOUTHWEST WHICH WILL RESULT IN MODERATING TEMPERATURES TONIGHT AND SUNDAY. A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF -8 DEGREES WAS SET AT THE NWS ANCHORAGE FORECAST OFFICE TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF -7 DEGREES SET IN 1963. OTHER LOW TEMPERATURES FROM THE AREA: ANCHORAGE AREA: EAGLE RIVER................................. -26 CAMPBELL CREEK SCIENCE CENTER............... -22 EAST NORTHERN LIGHTS........................ -15 NEW SEWARD @ HUFFMAN........................ -13 ANCHORAGE MIDTOWN........................... -10 ANCHORAGE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT............. -9 TURNAGAIN ARM AREA: SEWARD HWY @ PORTAGE GLACIER RD............. -16 GIRDWOOD.................................... -7 PORTAGE..................................... -7 MAT-SU AREA: WILLOW...................................... -28 SKWENTNA.................................... -26 BUTTE....................................... -21 WASILLA AIRPORT............................. -20 TALKEETNA AIRPORT........................... -19 SOUTH PALMER................................ -18 WEST PALMER................................. -17 PALMER AIRPORT.............................. -9 KENAI AREA: KENAI NWR................................... -25 SOLDOTNA.................................... -18 KENAI MUNICIPAL AIRPORT..................... -16 NINILCHIK................................... -11 COPPER RIVER BASIN: GLENNALLEN.................................. -38 MAY CREEK................................... -37 CHISTOCHINA................................. -35 GULKANA AIRPORT............................. -34 KLAWASI..................................... -23 CHITINA..................................... -24 MCCARTHY.................................... -22 EUREKA...................................... -15 MTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I avg like 6" of snow through Dec 15.....I'm already just about there and don't have to suffer through many useless, windy 45* days. There are many years up here that we can do better then that but as we have discussed before, Latitude has its advantages early on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Some of the thoughts being thrown around make me feel a little better about actually having a back half to winter. Yeah I think given the way the stratosphere looks... we are definitely primed for some type of warming later in the season. But I think that also means it could be a really ugly go of it for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Yeah I think given the way the stratosphere looks... we are definitely primed for some type of warming later in the season. But I think that also means it could be a really ugly go of it for a while. Yea, it can't get any colder, so there is only one direction for it to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 There are many years up here that we can do better then that but as we have discussed before, Latitude has its advantages early on Obviously because you avg more than I do. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I don't know why...I'm fine..lol. It is what it is unfortunately. You can't spin a crappy patttern. It probably was because of you and Will's discussion the other night, You are right, All we can do is wait, A lot of us wish the pattern change would be sooner like after thanksgiving, But we have some on here that think winter started back in october Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 GFS MOS is an absolute 7 day torch. Every day above normal... some significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I was speaking anecdotally, but were the "ideas" you were alluding to... I was wondering if this downwelling -QBO wave would help make conditions more conducive for a SSW later this season. It's pretty + right now and the timing isn't great currently, but the timing may work out to perhaps give us a ssw later on. It was a WAG, but if you look at the NAO thread on the main page, there are some good points being thrown around. I fully admit to not having a complete understanding in this, but it all makes for interesting stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Some serious early season cold. My buddy in Willow had the dishes in his kitchen sink freeze. Can't wait for this cold to dislodge and head toward us<b>...RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE IN ANCHORAGE AND BITTER COLD TEMPERATURES ACROSS THE REGION...</b> COLD TEMPERATURES ALOFT COMBINED WITH A NIGHT OF CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS HAVE ALLOWED TEMPERATURES TO PLUMMET ACROSS SOUTH CENTRAL ALASKA. CLOUDS WILL BE ON THE INCREASE TONIGHT AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING FRONT FROM THE SOUTHWEST WHICH WILL RESULT IN MODERATING TEMPERATURES TONIGHT AND SUNDAY. A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF -8 DEGREES WAS SET AT THE NWS ANCHORAGE FORECAST OFFICE TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF -7 DEGREES SET IN 1963. OTHER LOW TEMPERATURES FROM THE AREA: ANCHORAGE AREA: EAGLE RIVER................................. -26 CAMPBELL CREEK SCIENCE CENTER............... -22 EAST NORTHERN LIGHTS........................ -15 NEW SEWARD @ HUFFMAN........................ -13 ANCHORAGE MIDTOWN........................... -10 ANCHORAGE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT............. -9 TURNAGAIN ARM AREA: SEWARD HWY @ PORTAGE GLACIER RD............. -16 GIRDWOOD.................................... -7 PORTAGE..................................... -7 MAT-SU AREA: <b>WILLOW...................................... -28 </b>SKWENTNA.................................... -26 BUTTE....................................... -21 WASILLA AIRPORT............................. -20 TALKEETNA AIRPORT........................... -19 SOUTH PALMER................................ -18 WEST PALMER................................. -17 PALMER AIRPORT.............................. -9 KENAI AREA: KENAI NWR................................... -25 SOLDOTNA.................................... -18 KENAI MUNICIPAL AIRPORT..................... -16 NINILCHIK................................... -11 COPPER RIVER BASIN: <b>GLENNALLEN.................................. -38 </b>MAY CREEK................................... -37 CHISTOCHINA................................. -35 GULKANA AIRPORT............................. -34 KLAWASI..................................... -23 CHITINA..................................... -24 MCCARTHY.................................... -22 EUREKA...................................... -15 MTL Unfortunately, they are hogging up all the cold right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Obviously because you avg more that I do. lol Not a whole lot, I avg about 71" here, We have avg well above that in the last 3 out of 5 years especiallly if we toss 2010 out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Euro op says days and days of eating hot turkey sandwiches outside in 60s. Yeah I almost had a panic attack after viewing that as well as the longer ranges of the GGEM and GFS. We are so very screwed at the ski resort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 GFS MOS is an absolute 7 day torch. Every day above normal... some significantly. I think some of us may be wedged in during Wednesday so maybe GFS MOS too warm in the interior, but look what happens after T-Day..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 GFS MOS is an absolute 7 day torch. Every day above normal... some significantly. I know someone that would tell you to toss it its garbage.........lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Euro op says days and days of eating hot turkey sandwiches outside in 60s. Excellant! If I can't have winter I would rather be 60F and able to enjoy the outdoors than endless dry days around 40F. Last of the plow made snow piles still hanging tough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Just get that disaster out by Thanksgiving so at least we can have some sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 NAM mostly snow for Saddleback area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Just get that disaster out by Thanksgiving so at least we can have some sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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