ctsnowstorm628 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I love this. Funny azz pic. Thanks for brightening my day! 40.1/30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 This morning BOX has snow Wednesday, then midday switched back to rain, then now they're back to snow. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 This event now has my attention... 12z EURO is intriguing for at least getting some synoptic wintery precip into New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 GFS colder at 96 already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Is the 18z gfs at 84 snow for CNE/NNE? Granted its not much but it looks like it would be cold enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Is the 18z gfs at 84 snow for CNE/NNE? Granted its not much but it looks like it would be cold enough? Probably not cold enough... GFS looks pretty interesting at 108 though... def more amplified than 12z. and colder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Either way you slice it, the geographic area that gets snow with this storm looks like it'll be very small, a thin ribbon on the northern end. I could see a decent mix zone that sees just about everything from rain, sleet, snow and ZR. The ZR threat will depend on how cold the lowest levels are but I bet even where H85 goes above freezing, there'll be a layer below that which stays sub 0C. Maybe some nice 33F IP/RN mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Wow the GFS is cold.... only if that low could amplify more, we'd be in business.... Its almost like it taps into tip's theory posted a couple weeks ago saying that the upper levels of the atmosphere are anomalously cold right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 GFS would be nice for many. With the northern and southern s/w's competing like that...timing is certainly of the essence. Models will struggle with this until we get much closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Wow the GFS is cold.... only if that low could amplify more, we'd be in business.... Its almost like it taps into tip's theory posted a couple weeks ago saying that the upper levels of the atmosphere are anomalously cold right now. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 That 'whiff storm" was my favorite becuase it didn't just 'underperform' it utter implosion. I remember we were taking my daughter to "bright nights" in Springfield and the radio was giving their forecast saying a warning with 5--10" blah, blah, blah. I looked at the radar before bed having thrown in the towel, but it wasn't until the next morning that I learned EVERYBODY whiffed. All we could do was laugh. I don't even remember what happened with it. 36.3/23 Nothing worse as a budding weather enthusiast to get a big snow boner raging for a big multi-day, multi-warned bible buster, go to bed with the snow and wind just kicking in ...and summarily wake up to sun shining through milk cirrus. As your eyes open and the sun pours in the window ...it's, no words. The 1980s were famous for serving up a ton of that kind of crap. One of them was a January bomb in either 1987 or 1988, that blasted Cape Code with 70mph winds, 18" of beach sand and snow, while Middlesex County - originally slated for 24" of 1978 comparison porn - wound up with 2.4 inches that was barely detectable due to it being super fine pixie dust in brutally cold winds. The sun's orb shown mockingly through. By early afternoon it pretty much completely cleared out up our way, albeit very cold, and a solid wall of thick cirrus could be seen on the SE horizon. Right away after school the Weather Channel showed that whiteout still raged on the Cape. That was the infamous blizzard warning issued for a D2 event, for much of interior eastern Mass, RI and eastern CT, ghost storm of immeasureable frustration to the point of out and out ire. So deep did that wound of incompetence cut that it taught us never to get emotionally invested in a storm. Until this day, I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 ?? Is that anything like the giant vortices in the Day After Tomorrow that somehow are able to descend -100F temps to the sfc dry adiabatically from the stratosphere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Is that anything like the giant vortices in the Day After Tomorrow that somehow are able to descend -100F temps to the sfc dry adiabatically from the stratosphere? I know what he meant by Tip's comment, but didn't properly apply it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 18z NAM looks like a prelude to a light icer at 84 hours ftw lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 18z NAM looks like a prelude to a light icer at 84 hours ftw lol Enter Blizz 3...2...1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Is that anything like the giant vortices in the Day After Tomorrow that somehow are able to descend -100F temps to the sfc dry adiabatically from the stratosphere? I like how in that movie they show big converyors in the ocean going the wrong way - ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 That 'whiff storm" was my favorite becuase it didn't just 'underperform' it utter implosion. I remember we were taking my daughter to "bright nights" in Springfield and the radio was giving their forecast saying a warning with 5--10" blah, blah, blah. I looked at the radar before bed having thrown in the towel, but it wasn't until the next morning that I learned EVERYBODY whiffed. All we could do was laugh. I don't even remember what happened with it. 36.3/23 Confluence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I like how in that movie they show big converyors in the ocean going the wrong way - ugh. I woulda been pissed if I lived in DC since the storms occluded so fast.... they can never win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Lol I found this in a google search.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 18z NAM looks like a prelude to a light icer at 84 hours ftw lol AWT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Time to break this out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Time to break this out? There is a newer model of that. It's found that a portion of the warm conveyor belt also works in tandem with the CCB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Some of the models have something near 84 rs out, but nothing exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 There is a newer model of that. It's found that a portion of the warm conveyor belt also works in tandem with the CCB. Link?, I thought of this when Tip mentioned conveyors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Enjoy the cold next week. It's the only cold you've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Enjoy the cold next week. It's the only cold you've got. I take it we went the wrong direction weeks 2-3 on the Euro ens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Enjoy the cold next week. It's the only cold you've got. Heard this before about this upcoming week, no upper 60's now. But yea warm days incoming, that deep UL is intriguing day 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I take it we went the wrong direction weeks 2-3 on the Euro ens? Actually the 18z GFS does have a pattern change in early December.probably doesn't mean anything, but it's there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 There is a newer model of that. It's found that a portion of the warm conveyor belt also works in tandem with the CCB. You stole my thunder - I'd have to look for it, but the diagram that I used in school had the WCB curving back to the NW to overlay the CCB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I take it we went the wrong direction weeks 2-3 on the Euro ens? No not really, just that we torch heading into the last week of Novie. The euro ensembles have a gradient look to them at the end of the run, but the colder air doesn't really want to make it much farther past the border of Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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