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Late November/Early December upcoming wx.


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Its a great thing that this torch talk can be put to rest....we have 3 great chances at snow in the next 10 days...cold/snowy pattern locked in by Nov 20.

And lets not let Joe off the hook...."Nov 16th, lock it in". (even though he is now gleefully touting the torch....he said Nov 16 is when it flips)

I was right on the money, front carving through the area, coldest day of the next two weeks is later tonight and tomorrow.

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just having a little fun with the overnight crew, how they can function staying up that late is crazy. Winter on schedule, arriving Dec 21st per usual.

Big Winter, Big Big Winter.

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Functioning? I try to nip it by midnight but sleep deprivation is a necessary evil in America today...

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Functioning? I try to nip it by midnight but sleep deprivation is a necessary evil in America today...

My two children provide unlimited sleep deprivation this time of year due to illness, its all good though, if I am lucky I can make midnight on a normal evening.

NAM and GFS both have flakes in the air tomorrow now.

Wont take much more to get a coating across the south coast and eastern areas, our weenie soul's deserve a few flakes on the CP

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My two children provide unlimited sleep deprivation this time of year due to illness, its all good though, if I am lucky I can make midnight on a normal evening.

NAM and GFS both have flakes in the air tomorrow now.

Wont take much more to get a coating across the south coast and eastern areas, our weenie soul's deserve a few flakes on the CP

Joe...you of course know the blessing our children bring us. I'm convinced I'd be far less robust in my advancing years had I not had my daughter at age 52. My wife and I are blessed and from age 2 she's been a snow weenie. Enjoy every minute.

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Joe...you of course know the blessing our children bring us. I'm convinced I'd be far less robust in my advancing years had I not had my daughter at age 52. My wife and I are blessed and from age 2 she's been a snow weenie. Enjoy every minute.

Absolutely Jerry, and I do, my daughter who is 8 is a full blown snow weenie, and my son who just turned 3 freaked out back in October when we got the coating during the week of freak. Now, back on topic, lets try and get some flakes in here tomorrow. Even though this pattern is hostile I think we have better chances of getting a light to moderate suprise leading into the holidays. Granted there is no blocking at all, but these wavelengths are short, and its all Northern Stream, if we can get one of the these quick hitting troughs to dig just enough and get a vort to dig under LI then we can get some snow................I would be thrilled with a flurry or two to start tomorrow just to remind me that this IS actually late fall.

Believe.

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Why all the negativity overnight and this morning? Things don't look overly bad the next 10 days. 2 cold shots and a couple snow threats inland

The 06z GFS got interesting, but guidance isn't really in agreement right now. I suppose it's not to be written off yet. Still a small chance tomorrow aftn for brief -SN too...but it again isn't a lock..but possible I suppose.

The pattern in general appears to be rather crappy at least through the 1st week of December and probably until mid month or so. Of course that does not mean we can't get some sort of snow event during this time, but I'm speaking of the overall pattern. It does not look like a sustained winter pattern...far from it. However, things are slowly trying to improve, but the problem is that indices are stuck in sh*t mode right now. Tropical forcing from latent heat in the IO favors this continued pattern for a few weeks. But like I said, the ends of the ensemble runs continue to show slight improvement so it is trying...just gotta give it time. Again, this does not mean we can't sneak in some snow event...especially the interior. If we see this pattern after the first week of December, I would be concerned.

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The 06z GFS got interesting, but guidance isn't really in agreement right now. I suppose it's not to be written off yet. Still a small chance tomorrow aftn for brief -SN too...but it again isn't a lock..but possible I suppose.

The pattern in general appears to be rather crappy at least through the 1st week of December and probably until mid month or so. Of course that does not mean we can't get some sort of snow event during this time, but I'm speaking of the overall pattern. It does not look like a sustained winter pattern...far from it. However, things are slowly trying to improve, but the problem is that indices are stuck in sh*t mode right now. Tropical forcing from latent heat in the IO favors this continued pattern for a few weeks. But like I said, the ends of the ensemble runs continue to show slight improvement so it is trying...just gotta give it time. Again, this does not mean we can't sneak in some snow event...especially the interior. If we see this pattern after the first week of December, I would be concerned.

Until the vortex in AK breaks down it will continue with some shots a seeing some snow and transient cold shots

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The 06z GFS got interesting, but guidance isn't really in agreement right now. I suppose it's not to be written off yet. Still a small chance tomorrow aftn for brief -SN too...but it again isn't a lock..but possible I suppose.

The pattern in general appears to be rather crappy at least through the 1st week of December and probably until mid month or so. Of course that does not mean we can't get some sort of snow event during this time, but I'm speaking of the overall pattern. It does not look like a sustained winter pattern...far from it. However, things are slowly trying to improve, but the problem is that indices are stuck in sh*t mode right now. Tropical forcing from latent heat in the IO favors this continued pattern for a few weeks. But like I said, the ends of the ensemble runs continue to show slight improvement so it is trying...just gotta give it time. Again, this does not mean we can't sneak in some snow event...especially the interior. If we see this pattern after the first week of December, I would be concerned.

Its not going to snow again until sometime in December........if folks keep waiting for these "sneaky" events amidst a sea of suck, then death is more likely to find you sooner.

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Until the vortex in AK breaks down it will continue with some shots a seeing some snow and transient cold shots

Agreed. It does show signs of weakening, which is good...but the fact that models tend to break things down to quickly and the MJO sort of arguing for continued AK troughing makes me take the over. However, it is weakening which is nice to see.

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Anytime pro mets drop "latent heat" bombs in Novie, we're porked for the foreseeable future.

Sneaky Scooter deals aren't a shot in the dark. We defintely have done it before in crappy patterns. Someone who gets a 8-10" storm amid 50 degrees on either side might not view it as a total loss. Will worded it pretty well yesterday, but we are talking about maintaining a sustainable pattern, when we are saying it looks hostile. Lets hope it really turns around after the 1st week.

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Its not going to snow again until sometime in December........if folks keep waiting for these "sneaky" events amidst a sea of suck, then death is more likely to find you sooner.

There will be one and possibly 2 accumulating snow events within the next 8 days fo interior SNE...better than having it warm for weeks during what should be a cold wx month

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Sneaky Scooter deals aren't a shot in the dark. We defintely have done it before in crappy patterns. Someone who gets a 8-10" storm amid 50 degrees on either side might not view it as a total loss. Will worded it pretty well yesterday, but we are talking about maintaining a sustainable pattern, when we are saying it looks hostile. Lets hope it really turns around after the 1st week.

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