weatherbo Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Looking at the Nat'l radar, there seems to be a disconnect in the moisture transport north, or like the moisture is outpacing the low. Maybe I'm just bored, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 12:43 AM, Thundersnow12 said: Interesting how temps are 5-10 degrees warmer in central Iowa with north winds, while just east of there it's colder with southwest winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 12:38 AM, csnavywx said: Probably snow grains and snow. Indicates that there's barely enough ice crystals to get the snow formation (Bergeron) process going. Snow grains are essentially a tiny ice crystal surrounded by rime. I've seen some observers put GS instead of SG. Not really a big difference either way. Yeah, like I told Chicago, some ASOS don't allow certain precip types. At KGFK SG is not allowed, nor is SH for any precip (very annoying). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromartie Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 12:44 AM, wisconsinwx said: Agree about Dec 8 and 9 from last year, but I thought the snowstorm in Feb 2007 was fruitful for everyone in SE Wisconsin. Then again, I happened to be at a retreat near Hartland at the time. Was that the one that had two phases: a smaller snowfall on a Friday night, and a larger blizzard for many that next Saturday night and Sunday morning? Yep, phase 1 did ok here. Was all snow. Phase 2 was a mix of slop by the lake and even changed to rain for a time before changing back to an inch or two of slop the next day. Basically made all the previous snow from phase 1 into mush that froze into a brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromartie Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 12:45 AM, cyclone77 said: Interesting how temps are 5-10 degrees warmer in central Iowa with north winds, while just east of there it's colder with southwest winds. This thing is wound up like the Christmas storm last year. Gonna be ushering in CAA on SE winds soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 The RUC gust potential is in line with what everything else is indicating. Gusts of 50 knots or greater possible heading eastward into northern IL/eastern WI in the morning: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Is it just me or is there some pivoting going on near CID looking at the DVN radar loop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 12:53 AM, Thundersnow12 said: Is it just me or is there some pivoting going on near CID looking at the DVN radar loop? It's trying to fill in on the western side as the low starts moving southeast. Don't hold your breath though, that's a massive dry slot, it will take some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 We are getting destroyed. Rates over 0.11" liquid per hour, extremely wet and heavy 2" outside. Roads are really messed up, and alot of traffic is still out there. Dryslot will probably lessen things for a bit, but not stop it. And then the real crazy part begins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 West Bend is reporting light snow last I checked, so hopefully the rain/snow line keeps making headway. However, when will the temps drop? Just before 7, Milwaukee is still reporting 39 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Just got back from running all over the place Did some Christmas shopping with the kids. Something on the radio about advising people to stay off the roads... didn't really catch all of it Its BAD out there! We were going around 28mph down I-90. The roads that were plowed were """good""" but slick and non plowed roads are barely doable in my Focus. Almost seems like it was coming down harder now then it has all day, but it could be the strong winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 12:55 AM, csnavywx said: It's trying to fill in on the western side as the low starts moving southeast. Don't hold your breath though, that's a massive dry slot, it will take some time. hey its better than not trying at all lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 All snow here now in Muskegon, MI! I'm a little confused by the radar...how much further north is that dry slot going to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Impressive looking map here with north winds screaming down Lake Michigan. At face value this is actually showing sustained winds pushing 50 knots. I did notice that LOT has a lakeshore flood warning for a couple counties, and for good reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 This storm is delivering the atmospheric pain. I like to call it baroclinic pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 1:00 AM, blackrock said: All snow here now in Muskegon, MI! I'm a little confused by the radar...how much further north is that dry slot going to go? That seems to be the million dollar question atm. Doesn't seem to be losing too much steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromartie Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 12:58 AM, wisconsinwx said: West Bend is reporting light snow last I checked, so hopefully the rain/snow line keeps making headway. However, when will the temps drop? Just before 7, Milwaukee is still reporting 39 degrees. I expect MKE to remain rain until the dry slot hits. I'm gonna go with 1-3 for MKE proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 12:58 AM, daddylonglegs said: Just got back from running all over the place Did some Christmas shopping with the kids. Something on the radio about advising people to stay off the roads... didn't really catch all of it Its BAD out there! We were going around 28mph down I-90. The roads that were plowed were """good""" but slick and non plowed roads are barely doable in my Focus. Almost seems like it was coming down harder now then it has all day, but it could be the strong winds. No pics? Loved your highway pics from yrs past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 1:04 AM, cromartie said: I expect MKE to remain rain until the dry slot hits. I'm gonna go with 1-3 for MKE proper. Don't steal my call.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromartie Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 1:04 AM, BowMeHunter said: Don't steal my call.. LOL I had 1-3 for MKE and 2-5 for me as original. I actually like 2-4 for me better now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 1:04 AM, cromartie said: I expect MKE to remain rain until the dry slot hits. I'm gonna go with 1-3 for MKE proper. If it hits; there's no guarantee. The Blizzard Warning wording did say the MKE area might remain rain until midnight, so this is not unexpected, even for the forecasters issuing the warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Holy crap, just read the actual warning text and LOT is saying occasional waves of 25-30 feet at the southern end of the lake .A STRONG AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS CHICAGO TONIGHT AND TO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES SUNDAY. IN THE WAKE OF THIS LOW...VERY STRONG WINDS WILL BLOW DOWN THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF LAKE MICHIGAN. STRONG NORTH WINDS AND LARGE WAVES WILL POUND THE LAKE MICHIGAN SHORELINE OF LAKE AND PORTER COUNTIES IN NORTHWEST INDIANA. WAVES OF 15 TO 20 FEET...WITH OCCASIONAL WAVES OF 25 TO 30 FEET ARE EXPECTED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromartie Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 1:07 AM, wisconsinwx said: If it hits; there's no guarantee. The Blizzard Warning wording did say the MKE area might remain rain until midnight, so this is not unexpected, even for the forecasters issuing the warning. It will hit and MKE now says the dry slot will bring a "temporary" break in the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 1:08 AM, Hoosier said: Holy crap, just read the actual warning text and LOT is saying occasional waves of 25-30 feet at the southern end of the lake .A STRONG AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WILL MOVE EAST ACROSS CHICAGO TONIGHT AND TO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES SUNDAY. IN THE WAKE OF THIS LOW...VERY STRONG WINDS WILL BLOW DOWN THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF LAKE MICHIGAN. STRONG NORTH WINDS AND LARGE WAVES WILL POUND THE LAKE MICHIGAN SHORELINE OF LAKE AND PORTER COUNTIES IN NORTHWEST INDIANA. WAVES OF 15 TO 20 FEET...WITH OCCASIONAL WAVES OF 25 TO 30 FEET ARE EXPECTED. Holy crap! This is an almost ideal setup for very large waves on the southern shores, given the very strong winds aligned north/south over the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 1:09 AM, cromartie said: It will hit and MKE now says the dry slot will bring a "temporary" break in the snow. I just saw that, but the arrow doesn't indicate how far the dry slot will go until the curve southeast. We have a lengthy time before the dry slot hits compared to Madison, so they will have a longer period of no precip than we will. I'm still thinking relatively low snow amounts as well, but the dry slot is still uncertain at this point for MKE, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 No camera pics ...probably would have had to camp out in the ditch eating my "smokehouse club" from WalMart... Its naaaaasty out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Good band over Winona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 1:11 AM, cyclone77 said: Holy crap! This is an almost ideal setup for very large waves on the southern shores, given the very strong winds aligned north/south over the lake. It's pretty much as good as it gets. The only thing that would make it worse would be longer duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 On 12/12/2010 at 1:11 AM, wisconsinwx said: I just saw that, but the arrow doesn't indicate how far the dry slot will go until the curve southeast. We have a lengthy time before the dry slot hits compared to Madison, so they will have a longer period of no precip than we will. I'm still thinking relatively low snow amounts as well, but the dry slot is still uncertain at this point for MKE, imo. I think temps are the bigger question mark for Milwaukee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Thundersnow is being reported with the def band across the southern MPX and northern ARX CWAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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