clskinsfan Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 IF the ECMWF is right Agreed. I am just commenting on the pictures. The EC did nail tomorrows storm though. And it sat all alone for some time. Not saying it will verify again. Just like the look of its forecast pattern much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest someguy Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Lets not get TOO excited til we see this on several consecutive runs. This is the first EC run showing it. UM not quite the 0z saturday euro had the same big low but 150 miles to the east... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I'd say last nights Euro had it as well, just suppressed off the Carolinas. Also the Euro Ensembles have had the signal as well. UM not quite the 0z saturday euro had the same big low but 150 miles to the east... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclonicjunkie Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Bring it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Agreed. I am just commenting on the pictures. The EC did nail tomorrows storm though. And it sat all alone for some time. Not saying it will verify again. Just like the look of its forecast pattern much better. I'm not sure I'm with you on that EC comment. Didn't it have the low developing in the southern plains and then heading for the lakes? That's not what happened. It doesn't seem any of the models handled this one too well. It doesn't even seem they are modeling it correctly now. There seems to be very little precip falling in the cold air. I'll bet the people in Chicago aren't getting what they thought they would. Having said that, I feel better when the EC shows a storm for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I'm not sure I'm with you on that EC comment. Didn't it have the low developing in the southern plains and then heading for the lakes? That's not what happened. It doesn't seem any of the models handled this one too well. It doesn't even seem they are modeling it correctly now. There seems to be very little precip falling in the cold air. I'll bet the people in Chicago aren't getting what they thought they would. Having said that, I feel better when the EC shows a storm for us. Ok. Maybe nailed was a poor choice of words. It did however stick to its guns about a Western track when most other models wanted to send the storm up the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Ok. Maybe nailed was a poor choice of words. It did however stick to its guns about a Western track when most other models wanted to send the storm up the coast. Yes it did. And the other models were horrible. I don't remember any solution that resembles what's actually taking place. But, I do feel good about the EC showing a storm for the MA. I hope we can squeeze out a little something in about 5 days or so also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I'll just remind everyone that a few days ago, 1 run of the EC showed a secondary wave moving up the cold front just behind tomorrow's system which brought snow to a lot of people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I'll just remind everyone that a few days ago, 1 run of the EC showed a secondary wave moving up the cold front just behind tomorrow's system which brought snow to a lot of people Remember the retrograding low run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest someguy Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I'm not sure I'm with you on that EC comment. Didn't it have the low developing in the southern plains and then heading for the lakes? That's not what happened. It doesn't seem any of the models handled this one too well. It doesn't even seem they are modeling it correctly now. There seems to be very little precip falling in the cold air. I'll bet the people in Chicago aren't getting what they thought they would. Having said that, I feel better when the EC shows a storm for us. this is inacurate assesment of the MOST of the european runs showed this CURREnt event if you go back and look at previous runs while a few runs of the euro didf have a more western track ....Once we got within 7 days the euro and euro esnemble showed a track ofthe low Through ILL inot eastern GL and western NY state it was far and away far more accurate than any other global Model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest someguy Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I'll just remind everyone that a few days ago, 1 run of the EC showed a secondary wave moving up the cold front just behind tomorrow's system which brought snow to a lot of people thats correct 1 run ... whcih came aftet several rusn before and after that 1 funny run which were all pretty close and the euro ensemble did a great job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 this is inacurate assesment of the MOST of the european runs showed this CURREnt event if you go back and look at previous runs while a few runs of the euro didf have a more western track ....Once we got within 7 days the euro and euro esnemble showed a track ofthe low Through ILL inot eastern GL and western NY state it was far and away far more accurate than any other global Model DT?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisNJ Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 DT?! rather obvious imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 DT?! The one and only. No one else can come on here and post WOOF and get away with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 this is inacurate assesment of the MOST of the european runs showed this CURREnt event if you go back and look at previous runs while a few runs of the euro didf have a more western track ....Once we got within 7 days the euro and euro esnemble showed a track ofthe low Through ILL inot eastern GL and western NY state it was far and away far more accurate than any other global Model I can't go back and look at those runs. I guess there is some way to do it, but I don't know how or where. Anyway, I won't dispute what you say. I just don't remember any run of any model forming this storm as far north as it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 The one and only. No one else can come on here and post WOOF and get away with it! Look at the typos the ALL CAPPED words and the writing style! Who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feb Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 DT?! I would love to have him posting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I would love to have him posting here. He is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner587 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 its great to have him back...his analysis is usually spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feb Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 this is total crap Its so bad it make crap look good He is. You're right. Only DT could make the above post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 You're right. Only DT could make the above post. Where was that posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feb Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Where was that posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 http://www.americanw...m-of-dec-19-21/ LOL DT IS HERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner587 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 lol about roger smiths analysis of the 19-21 event and energy maxima or w/e it is. I think it is obvious were not getting a lakes cutter during this period unless some MAJOR changes occur. So he may actually have a point wrt to his "crappy" analysis, but I wouldn't go that far because I have seen some very informative roger smith posts in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 lol about roger smiths analysis of the 19-21 event and energy maxima or w/e it is. I think it is obvious were not getting a lakes cutter during this period unless some MAJOR changes occur. So he may actually have a point wrt to his "crappy" analysis, but I wouldn't go that far because I have seen some very informative roger smith posts in the past. Yeah, but that post is craptastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffwx Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Yeah, but that post is craptastic! If we had a like button... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner587 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 If we had a like button... like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaner587 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Yeah, but that post is craptastic! of course, but you take the good with the bad with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 DT in the house! It's just like old times now. When this thread was started w/ the WOOF, I thought someone is stealing DT's line. Then I noticed it was created by someguy and I knew it was DT from the chat room during radio shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest someguy Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I am NOT trying to bust anyone 's chops here.... instead of sort of remembering what this model or that Model said about this current Midwest GL Low lets take a look ECMWF SINCE SUNDAY DEC 5 please all comments are evaluations are welcomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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