Justin Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Cyclone, its definitely been a lot wetter around here lately hasn't it? We've really put a dent in our precip deficit we ran up over the Summer and early Fall. This will be important for next Spring and the farmers too, to have all this moisture in the ground before it freezes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Cyclone, its definitely been a lot wetter around here lately hasn't it? We've really put a dent in our precip deficit we ran up over the Summer and early Fall. This will be important for next Spring and the farmers too, to have all this moisture in the ground before it freezes. Yeah I think it worked out pretty nicely for most of the area farmers. It was very dry through all of October which allowed ample time for harvesting. November has definitely gotten off to a wet start. Already a little under 4.50" in the first 9 days at my location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 There's just a few us that has not Good things come to those who wait? Eh, who am I kidding...gonna be awhile before I see any snow here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Good things come to those who wait? Eh, who am I kidding...gonna be awhile before I see any snow here. Haven't looked too closely yet, but there may be some snow showers/flurries rotating into your area tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Haven't looked too closely yet, but there may be some snow showers/flurries rotating into your area tomorrow. Sweet. IND did mention the possibility earlier in their morning AFD. Hopefully I don't miss 'em if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 a new north/south band getting going near I-39.. -RA here. We'll see of tomorrow brings a bit of -RA/SN or -SN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I don't have any measured gusts here, but we had several trees down with scattered power outages in our county. One tree fell across US 24 just as it was getting dark and 2 cars ran into it. No injuries, but airbag deployment made for a startled motorist. I would estimate gusts between 45-50 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I will remember this storm for the wind since we've been predominantly on the warm side of things until this afternoon here in Michiana. 54 mph gust reported in Goshen with several thousand customers out of power in the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think the airport measurements are B.S. no matter where you go. We had this problem in RIC all the time. The picture below exemplifies this. Check out the airport measurement (the little grey blob surrounded by pink in VA) - 11 inches! DT would have an opinion about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 DT would have an opinion about that. Yes he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I think the airport measurements are B.S. no matter where you go. We had this problem in RIC all the time. The picture below exemplifies this. Check out the airport measurement (the little grey blob surrounded by pink in VA) - 11 inches! I can back this. I lived at the DE coast during that and there we had about a foot before the mixed crap took over and then the tidal flooding basically wiped all of it out IMBY ( I lived a couple of blocks from the back bay aka Rehoboth Bay ) and then on the backside when it changed back to snow another 6-9 fell for a total of 18-21 and so yeah that map is a bit off. Happens very often around there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlothianWX Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 DT would have an opinion about that. DT has many opinions. For example: *** ALERT*** ALERT** 12z EUROPEAN MODEL showing Massive changes in the Pattern across all portions of the N hemisphere North of 45 Latitude... that will bring in a very different pattern for everyone in N America NOV 19-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlothianWX Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I can back this. I lived at the DE coast during that and there we had about a foot before the mixed crap took over and then the tidal flooding basically wiped all of it out IMBY ( I lived a couple of blocks from the back bay aka Rehoboth Bay ) and then on the backside when it changed back to snow another 6-9 fell for a total of 18-21 and so yeah that map is a bit off. Happens very often around there. It's so hard to get accurate measurements with a lot of those big coastal lows. They often contain alternating periods of heavy wet snow and IP/ZR. I'm looking forward to some true Midwestern powder this winter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 It's so hard to get accurate measurements with a lot of those big coastal lows. They often contain alternating periods of heavy wet snow and IP/ZR. I'm looking forward to some true Midwestern powder this winter! Is this your first winter in the midwest? Hope it doesnt disappoint. You will see the occasional wet snow, but yes, powder will be the rule most likely. WRT the storm wind knocked power out temporarily, and temp has fallen 20 degrees in 5 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 avg dropped from like 52" I think down to 44.5 with the new update. Almost detoilet like now Makes me almost question their snowfall measurements even more now. Wow thats a bigdrop. Per NOWData the average is 44.0" at Detroit, MI and 50.0" at Milwaukee, WI. Per the official numbers from NCDC apparently its 42.7" at DTW and 44.5" at MKE. There are always discrepancies with "official averages", because rather than taking just that, an average of the 30 winters, they do some amount of smoothing of the numbers. FWIW, DTW measurments from the mid-late 1990s to the mid-2000s where measuring was VERY sucky at times, so who knows maybe they even take this into account with their data smoothing at all stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 It's so hard to get accurate measurements with a lot of those big coastal lows. They often contain alternating periods of heavy wet snow and IP/ZR. I'm looking forward to some true Midwestern powder this winter! The powder will come with clippers, which we'll hopefully see a lot of. I definitely prefer powdery snow to wet, heavy snow. It blows around, which makes it interesting to watch near-blizzard or blizzard conditions (which are even possible in clippers, depending on how much wind there is). Also, it's easier to shovel, and even if you get several inches of snow, losing power in a snowstorm is no fun I'm sure. I don't remember specifically ever losing power in a snow or ice storm, which is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 The powder will come with clippers, which we'll hopefully see a lot of. I definitely prefer powdery snow to wet, heavy snow. It blows around, which makes it interesting to watch near-blizzard or blizzard conditions (which are even possible in clippers, depending on how much wind there is). Also, it's easier to shovel, and even if you get several inches of snow, losing power in a snowstorm is no fun I'm sure. I don't remember specifically ever losing power in a snow or ice storm, which is a good thing. I like a couple wet snows per season to change things up but definitely would rather have powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I just saw a car with 2-3" of accumulation on it. Must've drove in from the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlothianWX Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Is this your first winter in the midwest? Hope it doesnt disappoint. You will see the occasional wet snow, but yes, powder will be the rule most likely. WRT the storm wind knocked power out temporarily, and temp has fallen 20 degrees in 5 hours. My first since I was about four or five. I lived here in the early 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlothianWX Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I just saw a car with 2-3" of accumulation on it. Must've drove in from the north. Same thing here - I was in downtown Milwaukee tonight and the car in front of me had snow flying off the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlothianWX Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 The powder will come with clippers, which we'll hopefully see a lot of. I definitely prefer powdery snow to wet, heavy snow. It blows around, which makes it interesting to watch near-blizzard or blizzard conditions (which are even possible in clippers, depending on how much wind there is). Also, it's easier to shovel, and even if you get several inches of snow, losing power in a snowstorm is no fun I'm sure. I don't remember specifically ever losing power in a snow or ice storm, which is a good thing. I like a couple wet snows per season to change things up but definitely would rather have powder. Better for skiing as well! I hear there is a good place in the UP? Ungroomed powder? EDIT: Found it - Mount Bohemia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I will remember this storm for the wind since we've been predominantly on the warm side of things until this afternoon here in Michiana. 54 mph gust reported in Goshen with several thousand customers out of power in the region. What i'll remember it for. Peak gust here was 55mph which per GRR ( See below ) was the second highest gust in W.MI. Highest was 60mph in Port Sheldon. Amazing year with all the wind events around here. Below is a listing of the various wind reports the NWS in Grand Rapids recieved on Wednesday: NON-TSTM WND GST REPORTS LOCATION WIND GUST TIME/DATE (MPH) OF OBSERVATION LAT LON MICHIGAN ...ALLEGAN COUNTY... 2 S HOLLAND 44.00 M 104 PM 11/09 42.74N 86.10W 2 S HOLLAND 51.00 M 236 PM 11/09 42.75N 86.11W ...CALHOUN COUNTY... 1 NW BATTLE CREEK 55.00 M 258 PM 11/09 42.33N 85.21W ...CLINTON COUNTY... 5 NNW LANSING 45.00 M 305 PM 11/09 42.80N 84.58W ...GRATIOT COUNTY... 4 SSW ALMA 31.00 M 309 PM 11/09 43.32N 84.69W ...ISABELLA COUNTY... 1 NE MOUNT PLEASANT 40.00 M 335 PM 11/09 43.61N 84.76W ...JACKSON COUNTY... 3 WNW JACKSON 43.00 M 255 PM 11/09 42.26N 84.46W ...KALAMAZOO COUNTY... 4 SSE KALAMAZOO 46.00 M 220 PM 11/09 42.23N 85.56W ...KENT COUNTY... EAST GRAND RAPIDS 43.00 M 219 PM 11/09 42.94N 85.61W 4 E KENTWOOD 45.00 M 342 PM 11/09 42.90N 85.51W 2 NE COMSTOCK PARK 47.00 M 147 PM 11/09 43.06N 85.65W ...MASON COUNTY... 2 ENE LUDINGTON 36.00 M 215 PM 11/09 43.97N 86.41W ...MECOSTA COUNTY... 2 NW BIG RAPIDS 36.00 M 255 PM 11/09 43.72N 85.51W ...MUSKEGON COUNTY... 4 W MUSKEGON 41.00 M 1215 PM 11/09 43.23N 86.34W MUSKEGON 47.00 M 124 PM 11/09 43.22N 86.25W ...NEWAYGO COUNTY... 3 SW FREMONT 47.00 M 355 PM 11/09 43.44N 85.99W ...OTTAWA COUNTY... 1 NE PORT SHELDON 60.00 M 228 PM 11/09 42.91N 86.19W ...VAN BUREN COUNTY... 4 SSE SOUTH HAVEN 40.00 M 315 PM 11/09 42.35N 86.25W 1 W SOUTH HAVEN 48.00 M 115 PM 11/09 42.40N 86.29W 1 W SOUTH HAVEN 54.00 M 215 PM 11/09 42.40N 86.29W It's so hard to get accurate measurements with a lot of those big coastal lows. They often contain alternating periods of heavy wet snow and IP/ZR. I'm looking forward to some true Midwestern powder this winter! Yeah it is hard! I have experienced many of them ( 31 yrs there) and know it all to well. And yes you should see alot more powder in these parts! Oh and welcome to the midwest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 "Amazing year with all the wind events around here" Good sign. Hoping it continues into the winter. Wind driven snow is so much more impactful. Mini-blizzards coming in off Lk MI are awesome. I remember some white-out squalls back in the 80's even on the east side of the state in non-snowbelt areas. Haven't seen those in a while now. Maybe they'll make a return this winter? Also love to see drifts, they're nature's winter sculptures! Its a sign of a very good winter when you see drifts from more than one compass direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Hopefully some nice snow burst latter today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Getting a nice burst of snow!! It was pouring snow with big fat flakes there for a few minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlothianWX Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Getting some nice flurry action here this morning. Currently 32 at KUES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlothianWX Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Incoming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Getting a nice burst of snow!! It was pouring snow with big fat flakes there for a few minutes! It was enough of a burst of snow to disrupt students in class, including myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Flurries here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidlothianWX Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Looks like my mega-band did not survive. Light snow showers continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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