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Continued flurries most of the morning at the mountain... MVL now reporting light snow at 29F, too.

Nice wintery day.

.NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM FRIDAY MORNING/...

-- Changed Discussion --AS OF 1009 AM EST THURSDAY...STRATUS DECK WILL LIKELY HOLD FIRM

TODAY GIVEN STRONG INVERSION 950-850MB LAYER PER 12Z ALB SOUNDING

AND AVAILABLE RUC FCST SOUNDINGS. THIS WILL LIKELY ALSO HOLD

TEMPERATURES SLIGHTLY BELOW MOS VALUES. WINDS WILL GRADUALLY

BECOME S-SW 5-10 MPH...MAINLY WEST OF THE GREEN MTNS...WITH WINDS

MORE LIGHT/VARIABLE EAST OF THE GREENS. COULD BE A BRIEF FLURRY OR

TWO...BUT SHALLOW NATURE OF CLOUD DECK AND BUILDING HEIGHTS ALOFT

WILL GENERALLY PRECLUDE ANY PCPN TODAY OR TONIGHT.

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I posted this in the storm obs thread but figured I'd post it for reference here, too.

What a severe downsloping episode for the western slopes and eastern side of the Champlain Valley. SE sfc to 850mb wind flow will do that. Across the lake at the same elevations had 8-10" while the VT side of the Lake and western slopes saw 1-4".

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Well, as I said in the obs thread--I missed the whole damn thing. The wife and I steamed south on 91 Tuesday night as the precip was rolling in. Didn't hit anything till some snow down around Springfield, VT. It was wet snow from there till around Brattleboro and from there south, nothing but wet--pouring rain, actually. Made for some rugged traveling through the beaten Springfield, MA--Hartford, CT lowlands. 84W to Danbury was no picnic either, being the odd road that it is.

Back home tonight to a solid 10" otg and all things looking wintery. Due to poor design which I intend to fix, snow slides off the metal roof in one spot, landing right in front of the front door. I had to dig it all out just to open the door, and this after slogging down an unplowed road in my wife's low-clearance car. It's all good though. :arrowhead:

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Currently 33.5F following a low of 24.5F. There was quite a bit of freezing fog in the immediate valley last night when we came back from 1am Tilton outlet shopping, but I drove out of the fog by the time I got to my house. I'd estimate it was between 400-550ft.

00z Euro is a heckuva way to run a torch pattern next week for NNE. It's a very snowy anafrontal type deal Wed/Thu with the coldest air of the season by d9. There will probably be more modeling headaches with that southern cutoff so you can take the literal op depiction with a grain of salt, but at least we're findings ways to get enough cold and snow in an otherwise lousy pattern.

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Absolutely amazing morning out there... warming temperatures, bright sunshine, and valley fog. I love undercast it was pretty good this morning. The valley fog is riming up the trees down there giving an awesome view as it burns off. Time to head back outside and play in the snow.

Lot of valley fog here too this morning. Mostly clear at the house in the early AM but down here in Hanover, the fog still lies thick at almost 11am...

I was out the door early this morning after a long night--no rest for the weary. But I was rewarded with this:

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Still 36F nearing 11am. I think the snowpack albedo is helping to cutdown on s/w rad absorption and limit vertical mixing. It's near or above 50F in far southern NH where they are snowless.

I drove down to Hooksett/Candia yesterday for Thanksgiving dinner. I took 93S to 3A to 28. There was a decent drop off in snow coverage from here (exit 19) to exit 18 ion Canterbury. I'd estimate about 4-5" left there whereas I still had 7" here. By CON there were some bare spots showing up on the hills along the side of the highway, but I'd assume there was a good 2-3" remaining. By the time I got onto rt 28 it was down to 1" or less and it dwindled down to absolutely nothing (not even a snowbank) near the Hooksett K-Mart/99's. Turning east onto rt 27 into Candia the snow increased a little again from a dusting to 1" in the yards.

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Currently 33.5F following a low of 24.5F. There was quite a bit of freezing fog in the immediate valley last night when we came back from 1am Tilton outlet shopping, but I drove out of the fog by the time I got to my house. I'd estimate it was between 400-550ft.

00z Euro is a heckuva way to run a torch pattern next week for NNE. It's a very snowy anafrontal type deal Wed/Thu with the coldest air of the season by d9. There will probably be more modeling headaches with that southern cutoff so you can take the literal op depiction with a grain of salt, but at least we're findings ways to get enough cold and snow in an otherwise lousy pattern.

As we know it can snow in marginal temps, More so in NNE...

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Still 36F nearing 11am. I think the snowpack albedo is helping to cutdown on s/w rad absorption and limit vertical mixing. It's near or above 50F in far southern NH where they are snowless.

There's a very intense inversion happening up here right now... when I left the mountain it was 34F at 4,000ft and 44F at 1,500ft. At 1,200ft at our admin offices my car was showing 47F... then I drove 400ft down the hill to town and my car thermometer dropped from 47F all the way to 38F (this is at 1:15pm). MVL ASOS at 730ft is showing 34F at 1pm. So the temperature profile looks like this:

4,000ft...34F

1,500ft...44F

1,200ft...47F

800ft...38F

730ft...34F

Also looking at the ASOS observations... Morrisville-Stowe and St Johnsbury are both located around 700ft(ish) in valleys east of the Green Mountain spine. Look at much colder those two locations are from everyone else. The cold is really helping us hold snow for a little bit longer here in the valley, haha. There's actually more snow on the trees down here than up at the mountain now. Do we mix out and torch to 45F+ in two hours? Even Montpelier that is at 1,100ft is above the inversion at 40F.

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There's a very intense inversion happening up here right now... when I left the mountain it was 34F at 4,000ft and 44F at 1,500ft. At 1,200ft at our admin offices my car was showing 47F... then I drove 400ft down the hill to town and my car thermometer dropped from 47F all the way to 38F (this is at 1:15pm). MVL ASOS at 730ft is showing 34F at 1pm. So the temperature profile looks like this:

4,000ft...34F

1,500ft...44F

1,200ft...47F

800ft...38F

730ft...34F

Also looking at the ASOS observations... Morrisville-Stowe and St Johnsbury are both located around 700ft(ish) in valleys east of the Green Mountain spine. Look at much colder those two locations are from everyone else. The cold is really helping us hold snow for a little bit longer here in the valley, haha. Or we mix out and torch to 45F+ in two hours. Even Montpelier that is at 1,100ft is above the inversion at 40F.

KLEB didn't have fog mix out until last hour, and even still they are sitting at 6SM and BR.

That inversion weakens a little tonight, but still tries to hang though. I'm looking at the possibility of DZ/FZDZ near the front if it can sag south to around the Canadian border tonight.

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Max so far is only 45.7F and it's down to 41.9F now. Winds the winds pick up we get a little better mixing and shoot up into the mid 40s, but when they go back to calm for 5-10 minutes the sfc cold takes back over at 2m and we drop into the low 40s. Albedo ftw.

Pretty cool at the Sanbornton RWIS too.

http://vortex.plymouth.edu/cgi-bin/gen_nh_rwis.cgi?id=656009

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KLEB didn't have fog mix out until last hour, and even still they are sitting at 6SM and BR.

That inversion weakens a little tonight, but still tries to hang though. I'm looking at the possibility of DZ/FZDZ near the front if it can sag south to around the Canadian border tonight.

Yeah it was pretty neat to watch my car thermometer drop a full 10F going down 400-500ft of elevation during mid-afternoon. Very visible to the naked eye, too. There was a lot of low level haze in the lowest 100-200ft of the atmosphere and it almost looked like smoke... had that blue tint to it.

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KLEB didn't have fog mix out until last hour, and even still they are sitting at 6SM and BR.

That inversion weakens a little tonight, but still tries to hang though. I'm looking at the possibility of DZ/FZDZ near the front if it can sag south to around the Canadian border tonight.

I wonder if the CT River Valley saw the riming that the valley up here did. Nice warm breeze in the sunshine at the top of Mount Mansfield along the Green Mountain spine, with cold, moist, stagnant air riming the lowest elevations.

This was around late morning when the valley was still in the upper 20s while up at the mountain it was upper 30s. A very distinct white rime line can be seen from the inversion.

This one is pretty cool because based on the elevation of that chairlift (looks like a powerline) on the lower right side of the photo, the fog level and rime line followed the 1,300ft elevation contour. The base of that chair sits at 1,300ft while the homes on the hill to the left which are generally 1,500-1,800ft stayed out of the fog.

MVL is situated in the upper left hand corner of this photo under the dense fog bank that is following the north-south RT 100 corridor. That band is where the lowest elevations are in the 700-850ft range. The 3,000-3,600ft Worcester Range ridgeline is in the background.

The view from the ski resort... another day at the office.

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Check out the temperatures today... this station at 1,600ft at the ski resort base area had a high of 53.2F:

http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KVTSTOWE3

Meanwhile, at 730ft the high at MVL out in the valley looks to be 36F as they are now back down to 33F. We certainly avoided the torch down here in town, my station at 800ft is showing a high of 40.1F. MVL literally is the lowest spot around here out in a field so they must've kept the cold air locked in that lowest 50ft, haha.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?table=1&banner=off&sid=KMVL

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I posted this in the storm obs thread but figured I'd post it for reference here, too.

What a severe downsloping episode for the western slopes and eastern side of the Champlain Valley. SE sfc to 850mb wind flow will do that. Across the lake at the same elevations had 8-10" while the VT side of the Lake and western slopes saw 1-4".

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Thanks for the putting up the final map PF – I had grabbed the text portion of the totals, so I put that below for archiving. It looks like the highest New York total on there is 14” at Whiteface and for Vermont it was 12.1” at those two Waitsfield sites. We were in South Burlington for the holiday yesterday, and drove through the Richmond I-89 Exit 11 area – that was probably the lowest general area we saw in terms of accumulations. There really were just a couple inches around, so grass was still sticking out of the snow on mowed areas. Indeed the snow accumulations increased as one headed toward the Burlington area and my parent’s place on Spear Street had about 3 to 4 inches on the lawn. These snow accumulations holes on the west side of the Greens on the map are really quite striking though!

Here at the house today we were generally below that undercast akin to what Dendrite mentioned, so I’m not sure if it even got out of the 30s F (highest I saw was around 38 F). Snow depth in the yard was at 8 inches yesterday morning and 7 inches this morning, although I bet it’s almost consolidating more from the warmth below than above.

NOUS41 KBTV 241534
PNSBTV
NYZ026>031-034-035-087-VTZ001>012-016>019-250334-

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT
1034 AM EST THU NOV 24 2011

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE PAST 48
HOURS FOR THE STORM THAT AFFECTED OUR REGION. APPRECIATION IS
EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE AND COCORAHS
OBSERVERS...SKYWARN SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS. THIS
SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR HOME PAGE AT WEATHER.GOV/BURLINGTON

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS                   
                    SNOWFALL           OF 
                    /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...CLINTON COUNTY...
  4 ESE PERU            10.4   600 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  PLATTSBURGH            8.5   719 AM 11/23  BROADCAST MEDIA         
  DANNEMORA              8.0   746 AM 11/23  BROADCAST MEDIA         

...ESSEX COUNTY...
  WHITEFACE MOUNTAIN    14.0  1151 AM 11/23  NYDEC                   
  WILMINGTON            12.0   821 AM 11/23  BROADCAST MEDIA         
  NEWCOMB               10.0   306 PM 11/23  PUBLIC                  
  2 N LAKE PLACID        9.0   815 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  MORIAH                 9.0   739 AM 11/23  PUBLIC                  
  TICONDEROGA            9.0   838 AM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
  2 E TUPPER LAKE        8.0   736 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 SW MALONE            5.5   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...ST. LAWRENCE COUNTY...
  3 WNW GOUVERNEUR       2.5   948 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          

VERMONT

...ADDISON COUNTY...
  1 WNW ORWELL           8.5  1022 AM 11/23  COCORAHS                
  3 ENE VERGENNES        8.5   147 PM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  ORWELL                 8.0   653 AM 11/23  PUBLIC                  
  BRIDPORT               8.0   145 PM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  MONKTON                6.8   719 AM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  ADDISON                5.5   517 AM 11/23  SPOTTER                 
  SOUTH LINCOLN          4.9   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  EAST MIDDLEBURY        2.0   919 AM 11/23  PUBLIC                  

...CALEDONIA COUNTY...
  4 N WALDEN            10.8   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 WNW WEST DANVILLE   10.0   347 PM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  3 NNW SHEFFIELD        9.7   800 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  SE SHEFFIELD           9.5   800 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  1 S HARDWICK           9.5  1145 AM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  LYNDONVILLE            9.0  1240 AM 11/24  PUBLIC                  
  2 NE SUTTON            7.1   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  HARDWICK               6.6   612 AM 11/23  SPOTTER                 

...CHITTENDEN COUNTY...
  3 NE CHARLOTTE         6.3  1023 AM 11/23  COCORAHS                
  2 NW WESTFORD          4.6   630 AM 11/23  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  1 NE SOUTH BURLINGTO   4.4   900 AM 11/23  NWS OFFICE              
  2 SE SOUTH BURLINGTO   4.3   645 AM 11/23  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  1 N MALLETTS BAY       4.2   720 AM 11/23  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  4 NNE UNDERHILL        2.9   700 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  3 SSE RICHMOND         2.5   700 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  1 E NASHVILLE          1.6   645 AM 11/24  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  ESSEX CENTER           1.5   812 AM 11/23  NWS EMPLOYEE            
  1 NNW JERICHO          1.2   700 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                

...ESSEX COUNTY...
  GILMAN                 8.3   500 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  AVERILL                6.5   720 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
  SWANTON                6.1   307 PM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  8 NNW FAIRFAX          5.0   751 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                

...GRAND ISLE COUNTY...
  5 SSE ALBURGH          3.5  1007 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                

...LAMOILLE COUNTY...
  MORRISVILLE           10.1   500 PM 11/23  PUBLIC                  
  2 S EDEN              10.0   921 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 NE HYDE PARK         8.2   800 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  1 S MOSCOW             8.0  1004 AM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  MOUNT MANSFIELD        8.0   400 PM 11/23  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  5 N JEFFERSONVILLE     7.9   730 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 S WOLCOTT            7.0   754 AM 11/23  BROADCAST MEDIA         
  JOHNSON                6.0   445 PM 11/23  PUBLIC                  
  SMUGGLERS NOTCH        6.0   621 AM 11/23  STOWE MOUNTAIN RESORT   

...ORANGE COUNTY...
  2 SW SOUTH VERSHIRE   10.5   104 PM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  CORINTH               10.0   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NW CHELSEA           9.5   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  TOPSHAM                9.0   753 AM 11/23  BROADCAST MEDIA         
  STRAFFORD              7.0   814 AM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         

...ORLEANS COUNTY...
  2 NNW GREENSBORO       8.6   700 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  1 WNW WESTFIELD        6.5   800 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  JAY PEAK               5.0   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NW DERBY CENTER      4.8   700 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  NEWPORT                4.1   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  7 SE MORGAN            3.9  1025 AM 11/23  COCORAHS                

...RUTLAND COUNTY...
  KILLINGTON            12.0  1238 PM 11/23  PUBLIC                  
  1 N RUTLAND            2.9   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  PAWLET                 1.5   441 AM 11/23  SNOW SLEET MIX          

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
  2 SE WAITSFIELD       12.1   700 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  2 W WAITSFIELD        12.1   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 NW WATERBURY        11.0   600 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  2 S SOUTH DUXBURY     11.0   958 AM 11/24  PUBLIC                  
  WARREN                10.5   105 PM 11/23  PUBLIC                  
  3 NE WATERBURY        10.5   615 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  4 ENE CABOT           10.0   900 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  2 W WORCESTER          9.8   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  EAST CALAIS            9.5   449 PM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  MIDDLESEX              9.0  1033 AM 11/23  PUBLIC                  
  WATERBURY              9.0   447 PM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  2 SW MONTPELIER        9.0   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  2 NNE WATERBURY CENT   8.5   937 AM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  2 NE MORETOWN          8.5  1230 PM 11/23  PUBLIC                  
  EAST BARRE             8.3   920 AM 11/23  BROADCAST MEDIA         
  5 NNE WATERBURY        8.1  1026 AM 11/23  COCORAHS                
  BERLIN                 8.0   754 AM 11/23  BROADCAST MEDIA         
  4 ESE MARSHFIELD       8.0   745 AM 11/23  TRAINED SPOTTER         
  5 SW MARSHFIELD        7.5   545 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  2 N NORTHFIELD         7.5  1027 AM 11/23  COCORAHS                
  4 WNW BERLIN           6.5  1027 AM 11/23  COCORAHS                
  1 SSW NORTHFIELD FAL   6.0   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  WATERBURY CENTER       5.5   559 AM 11/23  PUBLIC                  
  WORCESTER              5.0   538 AM 11/23  COOP OBSERVER           
  MONTPELIER             4.0   537 AM 11/23  PUBLIC                  

...WINDSOR COUNTY...
  3 S LUDLOW            12.0  1008 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  WOODSTOCK             11.5   800 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  3 N POMFRET           10.6   700 AM 11/24  COCORAHS                
  4 N BETHEL            10.1   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 S ROCHESTER         10.0   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  CAVENDISH              8.6   700 AM 11/24  CO-OP OBSERVER          
  1 W BETHEL             8.5   622 AM 11/23  PUBLIC                  
  SPRINGFIELD            5.0   431 AM 11/23  STATE HIGHWAY DEPT.     

$$

LAHIFF

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Nice torch above 1500ft right now. Lost River at 1822ft is at 56F while most of the surrounding area is back down into the 30s.

I can't ever remember seeing it like this... the valley bottom will definitely have snow on the ground longer than the mid-elevations here.

This morning it was 30F at my place at 800ft and everything was frozen solid with a healthy snowpack. By the time I hit 1,300ft I started seeing grass patches showing up alongside the road and big bare areas out in fields and under trees. It was 34F at that elevation. Now at 1,500ft it is 36F this morning after a high of 53F yesterday and there is not a lot of snow left except in drifts and sheltered areas. We have 20-30mph gusts of warm, snow eating winds here at the base and up top the summit station is currently gusting over 50mph with a temp of 37F.

It is obviously pitch black out there at this time in the morning, but I'm very curious to give a look around as I have a feeling the area between like 1,300-2,500ft mid elevations will completely lose the snow before the valleys which have been locked solid for an extra 24 hours now. I can't ever remember this happening to this degree, yesterday was definitely first day I've ever seen something like a high of 53F at 1,600ft and 36F at 730ft.

Edit: We have just shot up to 47F here at 1,500ft with a puff of wind. Wow.

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Check out the MVL obs from early this morning... calm wind brings the temperature in the upper 20s and then when it goes up to 5mph the temp spikes into the mid 40s. Now it has gone calm again so its dropping back down. It is very warm just off the deck down in the valley as I can tell from the mid 40s lurking 700ft above the valley (at 1,500ft).

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Yeah--pretty rubust inversion yesterday and overnight, I'd say. Whisps of fog hung around in the CT valley pretty much all day from what I could tell.

Back down to 29F here this morning with some hoarfrost on tree branches and filtered sunshine now getting up over the hills.

Finally gonna get a chance to plow out the road and driveway today.

Still have 8" on the ground here and depending on how much we torch, or don't, and how much rain we get, or don't get, I wouldn't be surprised to see this snowpack compress down to a very solid couple inches and be the start of things for the winter. We've had snow here before Thanksgiving that has turned out to be the start of the season's pack. Time'll tell.

Edit: there's a Wxunderground station here in Corinth atop a small 1800' peak--they're reporting 43F and I'm now up to 30F here at 1200'.... :whistle:

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Nice photo, Jayhawk. That's how Thanksgiving should look.

What I'm looking at outside my window though is not what late November should look like... more like mid April. Cloudy, murky skies, mild temperatures, water running through the parking lot and mud showing up on the snowbanks.

While the Stowe village was in the upper 20s last night and frozen solid, several hundred feet up here at the base of the ski area it was a full on torch. This is our weather station at 1,600ft here at the base of Mansfield... it was 52.5F at midnight last night while MVL at 730ft was 28F. That is one of the largest thermal differences I can remember in a long time around here.

A 24F difference over 900ft of terrain last night at midnight... 52F at 1,600ft and 28F at 730ft. Also look at the winds... it was calm at 730ft and gusting to 40mph at 1,600ft. That is a strong inversion to not mix down those winds even 500ft. The inversion is still present, 47F at 1,600ft and 36F at 730ft MVL. I can safely say at this rate the valley will hold snow much longer than the mid elevation band of 1,500-2,500ft. We are melting out up here now (3" left at the snowstake but lots of bare ground out in the open) and the highest the temp has gotten down in the valley is 37F over the past 36 hours and still has 7-8" on the ground. None of us can remember an inversion this severe in a while.

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The torch is on again south of here. Salem is 58F and it's 40.6F here.

We'll get warmer than yesterday, but with a sfc col over us there should be little mixing again. We'll see what happens, but we may end up a bit below MOS again. It could be another one of those deals where the lower els occasionally spike well into the 40s to near 50F, but then drop back down again when the winds go calm. Dews should still be in the 30s so the snow sfc temps should stay below the MOS temp guidance. Regardless, the snowpack will take a beating by Monday when we advect dews in the 40s and bring in some rain.

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Man, snowcover is really helping out up here in Lyndonville....Yesterday was progged to be 47, we hit 34.4. It is is 48 at BTV and still below freezing here at 31.4. Snow is still caked to the trees.

Its not the snow cover, its the inversion. Areas below 1,000ft and cold air drainage areas east of the Greens have been stuck in the upper 20s to mid 30s over the past day and a half. I bet you have more snow below 1,000ft in LSC than 1,500ft+ at Burke.

We still have snow on the trees in Stowe village but bare ground showing up at the ski resort. Very odd pattern.

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