donsutherland1 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Today, the AO was -3.065. December 2010 set records for December blocking during La Niña events. Records included the lowest daily AO reading, lowest monthly average, and most days with an AO figure of -3 or below. Moreover, it should be noted that the AO is likely moving into a long-term negative cycle. The 10-year moving average bottomed out in 1966 (-0.423 10-year average) and then peaked in 1995 (+0.253 10-year average). It has generally been falling since that time. The chart does not include 2010, as the data is not yet final. Based on the preliminary figures, when this year's data is in, the 10-year moving average will have fallen further to around -0.125, the lowest 10-year figure since 1988 (-0.224 10-year average). In addition, 2010 will finish with an annual average of just below -1.025. That would break the record of -0.959 set in 1960. The record high annual average is +1.024, established in 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nynjpaweather Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Today, the AO was -3.065. December 2010 set records for December blocking during La Niña events. Records included the lowest daily AO reading, lowest monthly average, and most days with an AO figure of -3 or below. Moreover, it should be noted that the AO is likely moving into a long-term negative cycle. The 10-year moving average bottomed out in 1966 (-0.423 10-year average) and then peaked in 1995 (+0.253 10-year average). It has generally been falling since that time. The chart does not include 2010, as the data is not yet final. Based on the preliminary figures, when this year's data is in, the 10-year moving average will have fallen further to around -0.125, the lowest 10-year figure since 1988 (-0.224 10-year average). In addition, 2010 will finish with an annual average of just below -1.025. That would break the record of -0.959 set in 1960. The record high annual average is +1.024, established in 1990. Now that's interesting! How well does this match up with the solar cycles? I got to dig that up next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes_Probably_Maybe_No Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Strat cooling says hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okie333 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Strat cooling says hi Not for long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Yeah "carrying less weight" wasn't really a good way to put it. I think you and NJWinter said it better by saying that it was easier to overlook given all the other signals that strongly suggested blocking. If it is as big of a factor as it now appears it may be, it was big last year too but was easier to overlook with all the other stuff going on. Given the orientation of the warm water though, even that favored blocking. It was as textbook of a setup as you could get IMO. Exactly VA. I can tell you in my case, it wasn't until this past Summer into Fall with the continued streak of -NAO when the alarm went off in my head. I mean at that point I'm looking at the persistence back to 08-09 compared to any other point in records, and I really started to lose any skepticism in the theory and accepted that something else BIG like the extended solar min had to be at play in forcing this to the extreme. But like HM said, how long can you run with something because of persistence before you finally get burned? I credit the forecasters who tried to foresee the end to the crazy NAO period for various logical reasons. It may not work out in the end this winter, but fwiw it made logical sense I thought. And credit to Okie for making an excellent NAO call so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes_Probably_Maybe_No Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Not for long Perhaps but the negative anomalies are propagating down which could lead to a worse pattern then some are believing for week 2-3 of Jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desnowlover Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Kudos Mr. Sutherland! Happy New Year Area Forecast Discussion Issued by NWS Mt. Holly, NJ AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ 238 AM EST SAT JAN 1 2011 LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... OVERALL IT REMAINS AN ATYPICAL OR THROW BACK NINA WINTERS FROM THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY ACROSS OUR CWA. MR DON SUTHERLAND`S RESEARCH INDICATES THAT THROUGH TODAY THE ARCTIC OSCILLATION (THE NORTH ATLANTIC OSCILLATION IS PRETTY CLOSELY TIED TO IT) WILL SET A BLOCKING (NEGATIVE) DECEMBER RECORD FOR ANY NINA WINTER SINCE 1950. WITH BLOCKING WEATHER PATTERNS TOWARD THE POLE, THE COLD AIR IS FORCED SOUTHWARD. THIS HAS PRETTY MUCH MADE THE TYPICAL LA NINA CLIMATOLOGY OF RECENT NINA WINTERS DEAD IN THE WATER. THIS DECEMBER FOR PHILADELPHIA WILL BE THE COLDEST DECEMBER SINCE 2000 AND THE COLDEST MODERATE OR STRONG LA NINA SINCE 1955. http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=PHI&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1&highlight=of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anomalous Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Oymyakon in eastern Siberia , according to Weather Underground, will have a low of -92F Wednesday. If that occurs, that would beat the previous NH low of -90. Oh yeah, Narsarsuaq in western Greenland will be 53F today with rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Oymyakon in eastern Siberia , according to Weather Underground, will have a low of -92F Wednesday. If that occurs, that would beat the previous NH low of -90. Oh yeah, Narsarsuaq in western Greenland will be 53F today with rain. And the 18z GFS wants to bring that air to our side of the world...wow at that -EPO... Models have been supportive of higher heights around AK for the mid range..but this run of the GFS is the extreme version...think vodka cold for most of the CONUS this run verbatim...things are supportive for a new wave which would again help pump ridges up north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Srain Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 And the 18z GFS wants to bring that air to our side of the world...wow at that -EPO... Models have been supportive of higher heights around AK for the mid range..but this run of the GFS is the extreme version...think vodka cold for most of the CONUS this run verbatim...things are supportive for a new wave which would again help pump ridges up north. The 00Z and 06Z seems to agree, Jorge. It is becoming clearer that truly vodka cold is heading S and will sink deep into the Lower 48. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whacker77 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Is this plunge of arctic air likely to be a one off situation, or are setting the stage for several shots in a row as we head through January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Oymyakon in eastern Siberia , according to Weather Underground, will have a low of -92F Wednesday. If that occurs, that would beat the previous NH low of -90. Oh yeah, Narsarsuaq in western Greenland will be 53F today with rain. Ouch, we're headed towards Vostok, Antarctica territory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Bring it on! 1058mb (and pattern suggested by Euro indicates more in the way, with another near 1060mb entering AK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Is this plunge of arctic air likely to be a one off situation, or are setting the stage for several shots in a row as we head through January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Wizard Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Bring it on! 1058mb (and pattern suggested by Euro indicates more in the way, with another near 1060mb entering AK) I almost guarntee you the 12z ECMWF is too far east with the blocking. There is no other model or even the 0z Euro ensemble to suport this solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbjr Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I almost guarntee you the 12z ECMWF is too far east with the blocking. There is no other model or even the 0z Euro ensemble to suport this solution. So, if the blocking is further west, how do you see it playing out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikolai Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 So, if the blocking is further west, how do you see it playing out? He's only saying that because the PNW gets warm. I'm sure he would see it playing out in a fashion more favorable to Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 He's only saying that because the PNW gets warm. I'm sure he would see it playing out in a fashion more favorable to Seattle. Actually, I would imagine if the block were further west it would be better for us too, because systems wouldnt be so suppressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affytaffy Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 AO @ -6? How sustained is this round likely to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAwxman Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Still early to see how it all plays out, but it's correct to say this pattern has the potential to be absolutely nuts with cold for almost all of the nation. A sick ridge over AK is THE signal you want to see to build up the strongest cold air masses in North America, and the fact that the NAO relaxes as this AK ridge gets cranked up actually helps build the cold. You would not want the NAO tanked too because if the Greenland ridge was too strong, it would actually connect to the AK ridge and effectively shut off cross polar flow. In the upcoming pattern, it looks like we keep that pathway open for awhile. Maybe the AO / NAO will tank anew after mid month, but by then the strong cold will be in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Still early to see how it all plays out, but it's correct to say this pattern has the potential to be absolutely nuts with cold for almost all of the nation. A sick ridge over AK is THE signal you want to see to build up the strongest cold air masses in North America, and the fact that the NAO relaxes as this AK ridge gets cranked up actually helps build the cold. You would not want the NAO tanked too because if the Greenland ridge was too strong, it would actually connect to the AK ridge and effectively shut off cross polar flow. In the upcoming pattern, it looks like we keep that pathway open for awhile. Maybe the AO / NAO will tank anew after mid month, but by then the strong cold will be in place. yeah, Norman/OKC mentioned this in their morning discussion. NOTE THAT BOTH THE 00Z GFS AND THE 00Z ECMWF HAVE A 500-MB HIGH OF AROUND 580HPA OVER ALASKA BY TUE 11 JAN. NOT A GOOD SIGN - NASTY THINGS USUALLY HAPPEN IN TERMS OF COLD AND SNOW/ICE IN PATTERNS LIKE THIS... NOT ONLY AROUND HERE BUT IN MANY PARTS OF THE LOWER 48. NEXT WEEK MAY BE INTERESTING IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Wizard Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 So, if the blocking is further west, how do you see it playing out? I think the cold would start out further west and gradually invade much of the country. The vast majority of model runs have been showing that. The 12z ECMWF is an outlier at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Wizard Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 He's only saying that because the PNW gets warm. I'm sure he would see it playing out in a fashion more favorable to Seattle. With how strong this Nina is, one would have to think the NW will score eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okie333 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 yeah, Norman/OKC mentioned this in their morning discussion. NOTE THAT BOTH THE 00Z GFS AND THE 00Z ECMWF HAVE A 500-MB HIGH OF AROUND 580HPA OVER ALASKA BY TUE 11 JAN. NOT A GOOD SIGN - NASTY THINGS USUALLY HAPPEN IN TERMS OF COLD AND SNOW/ICE IN PATTERNS LIKE THIS... NOT ONLY AROUND HERE BUT IN MANY PARTS OF THE LOWER 48. NEXT WEEK MAY BE INTERESTING IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. I believe they mean 580 DM... MB is the same as HPA... so a 500MB HIGH OF 580MB? Doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 With how strong this Nina is, one would have to think the NW will score eventually. How well did you do in 1966-67? I think that was a big winter for a large part of the country. That has been a close match since summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I think the cold would start out further west and gradually invade much of the country. The vast majority of model runs have been showing that. The 12z ECMWF is an outlier at this point. that would be good for us (and probably you too) as we only want it marginally cold at this point and being near the boundary of different airmasses is a good place to be for big storms, probably snow in this kind of pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAwxman Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 LOL this would just be sick. (Map courtesy of MDA): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 How well did you do in 1966-67? I think that was a big winter for a large part of the country. That has been a close match since summer. Yes but the ENSO state was neutral-negative, not Niña on steroids. Granted teh summer of 1966 was a lot like the summer of 2010 in sensible weather but the December 1966 storm wa a piker compared to the Boxing Day Blizzard. And from the look of this and other threads January does not look to be a copy of the 1967 torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexo Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Norman NWS is excited MORE ATTENTION CONTINUES TO TURN TO THE POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT TURN OF EVENTS NEXT WEEK. BIG RIDGE WILL BUILD N INTO ALASKA BY LATE WEEKEND... SUPPORTING A SIZEABLE BUILDUP OF ARCTIC AIR OVER W CANADA AND DOWNSTREAM HEIGHT FALLS INTO SW CANADA AND NW CONUS. FORMATION OF A 500-MB 575-580 HIGH OVER AK... WHICH HAS BEEN ADVERTIZED BY THE GFS AND ECMWF FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW... GENERALLY DOES NOT TURN OUT WELL - FOR MOST OF THE LOWER 48 MUCH LESS THE S PLAINS. GFS SFC-T PROGS FOR NEXT TUESDAY ARE UNPRECEDENTED AS FAR AS THIS FORECASTER CAN RECALL... AND IF TAKEN LITERALLY WOULD IMPLY THAT PARTS OF MT/WY WOULD STRUGGLE TO REACH HIGHS OF -30F NEXT TUESDAY. THAT SEEMS A WEE BIT EXTREME... BUT IN ANY EVENT THE PATTERN CONTINUES TO SUGGEST A TURN TOWARD SIGNIFICANT AND POTENTIALLY SEVERE WINTER WEATHER IN SOME WAY SHAPE OR FORM - THE STUFF NATIONAL HEADLINES ARE MADE OF - BY SOMETIME NEXT WEEK. COLD AIR IS LIKELY TO BEGIN INVADING THE PACNW AND NORTHERN ROCKIES/HIGH PLAINS OVER THE WEEKEND AND ROLL SE THEREAFTER. AT THIS TIME WE ARE LEANING TOWARD THE ECMWF AND A FASTER INVASION OF ARCTIC AIR INTO THE S PLAINS NEXT SUNDAY NIGHT. WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT IS HARD TO SAY. BITTER COLD... SNOW AND/OR ICE... OR PERHAPS ALL OF THE ABOVE. SUFFICE TO SAY NEXT WEEK LOOKS TROUBLESOME. It's what national headlines are made of! Dallas getting revved up: /AND NOW A DISSERTATION ON A LIKELY COLD SPELL NEXT WEEK/ ALL THE MEDIUM TO LONG RANGE MODELS CONTINUE TO ADVERTISE A MAJOR PATTERN SHIFT OCCURRING OVER THE NORTHERN LATITUDES...WITH BLOCKED UPPER FLOW SETTING UP AND PERSISTING ACROSS CANADA. MODELS FORECAST THE UPPER LEVEL RIDGE NOW OVER WESTERN CANADA TO BREAK DOWN AND BE REPLACED BY A STATIONARY UPPER LEVEL LOW THIS WEEKEND. AS THIS OCCURS...SURFACE TEMPS COOL AND PRESSURES GRADUALLY RISE. IN SHORT THIS MEANS WESTERN CANADA WILL BE THE GENESIS REGION OF THE COLD AIR MASS FORECAST TO ARRIVE IN 7 TO 8 DAYS. THE ASTUTE OBSERVER WOULD NOTICE TEMPS ACROSS WESTERN CANADA AND ALASKA ARE NOT THAT COLD NOW. I KNOW IT IS A HABIT FOR MANY OF US TO THROW A MAP OF SURFACE TEMPS UP AND TRY TO SEE WHERE THE COLD AIR IS AND WHERE IT IS COMING FROM. BUT THIS IS SORT OF A RULE OF THUMB AND IS PARTIALLY FLAWED THINKING FOR A COUPLE REASON. FIRST COLD AIR AT THE SURFACE IS NOT A CONSERVED QUANTITY...IT DEVELOPS AND IS ALSO DESTROYED BY COMPLEX DYNAMIC MOTIONS ALOFT. THE SECOND REASON IS AN ANALYSIS OF WHERE OUR PAST BIG ARCTIC OUTBREAKS ORIGINATE USING BACKWARD TRAJECTORIES SHOWS US THAT THE NORTH POLE REGION IS PREFERRED...BUT OUR SURFACE PARCELS HERE ACTUALLY ORIGINATE AT LEVELS BETWEEN 500MB-700MB. THUS AN ANALYSIS OF 500MB-700MB TEMPS AND ANOMALIES IN THE NORTHERN LATITUDES CAN GIVE US A GOOD PROXY TO COMPARE AND JUDGE THE STRENGTH OF FUTURE ARCTIC EPISODES. THESE CURRENT MID-UPPER LEVEL TEMPS ARE CHILLY...BUT NOT TOO UNUSUAL. SO THE FRONT THAT ARRIVES IN A WEEK MAY BE SIGNIFICANT BUT NOT RECORD BREAKING...AT LEAST NOT INITIALLY. WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THE FORECAST UPPER PATTERN IS THAT BY 7-10 DAYS AN UNUSUALLY STRONG UPPER LEVEL HIGH IS FORECAST TO DEVELOP OVER ALASKA...WITH A STRENGTHENING UPPER LOW ACROSS NORTHERN CANADA. THESE POLAR LOWS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAJOR ARCTIC OUTBREAKS WHEN THEY MOVE SOUTH...AND THAT IS WHAT THE GFS HAS BEEN FORECASTING TO OCCUR IN THE 10-15 DAY TIME RANGE. WHETHER THIS ACTUALLY OCCURS REMAINS TO BE SEEN. REGARDLESS...THE BLOCKING UPPER PATTERN WILL KEEP A PROLONGED FETCH OF CANADIAN/ARCTIC AIR COMING INTO THE REGION FOR THE 2ND WEEK OF JANUARY. TOO EARLY TO TELL WHETHER ANY MOISTURE WILL BE AVAILABLE...BUT NONETHELESS ITS SHAPING UP TO BE AN INTERESTING WEEK WEATHER-WISE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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