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November 2011 Obs/Forecasting Discussion


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if today's front came through in a month or so, we'd have a nice little period of snow I'd betcha'

depends on how much it had to do with sean. i doubt the front would have been crawling so slow at least.. and sean probably helped throw some moistuer back over top the cold dome.

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here's some good news long term

you've all seen the FSU link for snow cover: http://moe.met.fsu.edu/snow/

well, if you go down to the 3rd graph down-5 Year Snow Cover and click on the link "35N-55N" right under the year 2009, you get the last 5 year snow cover for the area 35N through 55N

looky there....now that's a good trend over the past 5 years

3555time-5year.png

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Orh would disagree. He has been defending their performance including nailing the late October blast

The week one forecast (which is actually the 5-11 day forecast) usually does okay/good, but if he tries to argue beyond that, I can tell you right now that the other weeks beyond that can often be (and usually are) way off.

Looking at the most recent verification for a week two forecast (12-18 day) from the Euro weeklies, it showed above normal to much above normal temperatures over the western half of the U.S. and Canada and below normal in the eastern half. The verification was just the opposite over the western U.S. and Canada is completely the opposite, though it did mange to get the belows over the eastern U.S. right. So yeah, it got everything wrong except the eastern U.S.

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A late start to winter around here is January 1.

well, I was just commenting that late starts around here are not necessarily bad

late start to me is around Christmas, but what's a week

not that it was that great snow-wise around here, 93/94 didn't get cold until Christmas night

although 78/79 has 3" of snow Thanksgiving week, winter (snow) was missing in action until mid-late JAN

I do believe this year we'll have a pattern change to winter by the first week of DEC and it should be below normal temp-wise in DEC; snow, dunno'

personally, a pattern change late NOV/early DEC is good timing for us (winter will remember DEC)

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Would it be possible to have separate threads for current obs/forecasting and the long/medium-term winter discussions? This thread has taken on a schizophrenic nature, as it keeps switching between the two.

i think there is a winter thread.. the weenies cant control themselves

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