mitchnick Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 65 with sun is never too warm! it ain't the warm temps in late NOV that bothers me, it's the flies and bees that are driving me crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethesdaWX Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 This weather blows Welcome to La Nina in the Mid Atlantic, bad time to relocate . This one goes 3 years no doubt so we have next year to suffer through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Druff Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 First of all, it's 75* outside here, not 65. Secondly, if you're cool with this weather, I suggest a move to Florida. If it's not going to snow, I'm quite happy with 30* and sunny. 65 with sun is never too warm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAsnowlvr82 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 65 with sun is never too warm! I beg to differ. Much rather it be 45 and sunny. Just throw on a little heavier coat and you can still do whatever you want outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Love this weather. In winter, I'd prefer this every day when we don't have a MECS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 First of all, it's 75* outside here, not 65. Secondly, if you're cool with this weather, I suggest a move to Florida. If it's not going to snow, I'm quite happy with 30* and sunny. Negative. If it is going to be 30* then it needs to be snowing. Otherwise it is a waste of cold air. If it isn't going to snow, then 70 and sunny is perfectly fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 We get warm weather almost every yr in the cool season several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 1322421077[/url]' post='1145962']We get warm weather almost every yr in the cool season several times. I don't really care about the next 3-4 weeks. Those events are usually small or mix. 12/20 to 2/20 is the period where I hate to squander lots of time on awful patterns, even though I know we will endure some bad patterns during that period. 88% of our snow falls after 12/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 It's not even met winter...people are freaking out on Facebook. If it's like this in mid December maybe I'll start to be worried but even then not really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 1322423517[/url]' post='1146041']It's not even met winter...people are freaking out on Facebook. If it's like this in mid December maybe I'll start to be worried but even then not really... Not sure if you remember December 2005, but we got a +PNA/-NAO for a 3-4 week period and we did score, but it was relative to the period so tempered by climo. We got 4-5 events but all were very minor or mixed except for 12/5-6. I think I got 6 .5" for the period with the biggest event being 3.25". The 12/9 event was just over 2" then changed to sleet and the other 3 events were car toppers. Then we torched. Forever and ever and ever. If we had that same period from 12/20 to 1/20 we would have doubled our snow probably. We are wasting an unproductive period. I haven't gotten a legit legit November event since 1989. I couldn't be happier we aren't wasting a block right now. That would be a travesty. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 It feels nice. If the patten is going to be crappy might as well put up a few days 10 degrees + above climo. Were going to pay for this on Wednesday and the week following anyway. So get out and enjoy it while you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I love snow but also like 65 with sun now that the tree have pretty much shed their leaves. The massively positive ao and nao sure aren't good for snow anytime soon even with the pna going positive. Yep - it's beautiful when the sun can shine through the trees to make basking in it a real pleasure. If we didn't have people working on the house, I'd have probably grabbed the clubs and played a round today. I'm OK with things staying normal to above normal for a few more weeks. Like zwyts said, we're only "wasting" a period during which we rarely see snow of consequence. Let it torch for now, and we can make up the difference around Christmas and into the New Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avdave Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Todays highs: IAD: 70* A new record. Old record was 68* in 1976 BWI: 71* No record. the record high for this date in 1896 was 74* DCA: 72* No Record. The record high for this date in 1896 was 75* MRB: 68* No Record. The record high for this date in 1976 was 71* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Todays highs: IAD: 70* A new record. Old record was 68* in 1976 BWI: 71* No record. the record high for this date in 1896 was 74* DCA: 72* No Record. The record high for this date in 1896 was 75* MRB: 68* No Record. The record high for this date in 1976 was 71* in 1976, a lot of cold must have followed because I remember all of DEC as being unrelentingly cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Todays highs: IAD: 70* A new record. Old record was 68* in 1976 BWI: 71* No record. the record high for this date in 1896 was 74* DCA: 72* No Record. The record high for this date in 1896 was 75* MRB: 68* No Record. The record high for this date in 1976 was 71* 70", damn thats a nice snowstorm. Too bad Frederick got screwed I guess we're the new DCA, slightly lower totals than surrounding areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avdave Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 70", damn thats a nice snowstorm. Too bad Frederick got screwed I guess we're the new DCA, slightly lower totals than surrounding areas. :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 :unsure: Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyS Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 in 1976, a lot of cold must have followed because I remember all of DEC as being unrelentingly cold On November 27, 1976, the high temperature was 65 at DCA, and did not reach or exceed that until February 23, 1977, when the high was 72. December 1976 was the 34th coldest December in DC history, with an average temperature of 35.5 degrees, followed by the fifth coldest January ever, at 25.4 degrees. It then warmed up to 38.4 degrees in February 1977 (45th warmest February ever). However, there is no analog between November 1976 and this November, as November 1976 was cold overall, at 43.0 degrees (13th coldest November ever), as opposed to 52.2 so far this November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Must be slow news time around there. BFD it hit 70... Dulles records are broken every other day. It was in the 50s in the valley east of San Fran today. Cooler than the coastal areas. Damn fog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethesdaWX Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The end of the 1st week in December intrigues me a bit. Aside from models, it's my personal interpretation of the atmospheric progression that leads me to believe there should be a weakness near us during that time, and in a favorable trajectory in giving us a shot at accumulating snowfall. It's a week out but I think we have a good chance at a wintry event within the next 10 days. I think models should begin to pick up on this system within the next 3-4 days, GFS as usual just past it's resolution loss gives it that big "cold front" look, Euro is sniffing it out a tiny bit, but I think I can see the progressing weakness that should lead to a low tracking from the gulf region up/near the east coast, bringing us our first chance at a significant winter event. Either that or it cuts inland a bit. Really hope I don't end up looking like a massive blowhard for this call, but Ji cancelling winter as usual seems to lead to something nice down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I think models should begin to pick up on this system within the next 3-4 days, GFS as usual just past it's resolution loss gives it that big "cold front" look, Euro is sniffing it out a tiny bit, but I think I can see the progressing weakness that should lead to a low tracking from the gulf region up/near the east coast, bringing us our first chance at a significant winter event. Either that or it cuts inland a bit. Really hope I don't end up looking like a massive blowhard for this call, but Ji cancelling winter as usual seems to lead to something nice down the road 6z GFS should be to your liking right about the 6th of December. I don't know if you meant the end being after the first seven days or the first weekend, but anyway, there's winter weather in that solution. I can't wait until someone starts the December thread because this one has been pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Light rain fell off and on since yesterday afternoon, 0.39" since it started at noon. Kept the soil here in a saturated condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 65 with sun is never too warm! +1 I don't really care about the next 3-4 weeks. Those events are usually small or mix. 12/20 to 2/20 is the period where I hate to squander lots of time on awful patterns, even though I know we will endure some bad patterns during that period. 88% of our snow falls after 12/20 Agreed. It's foolish to expect snow before Christmas in DC. Anything that falls before then should be considered a nice bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 +1 Agreed. It's foolish to expect snow before Christmas in DC. Anything that falls before then should be considered a nice bonus. The glaring exception being our famous December 5th events. Some people have learned to expect something around then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 6z GFS should be to your liking right about the 6th of December. I don't know if you meant the end being after the first seven days or the first weekend, but anyway, there's winter weather in that solution. I can't wait until someone starts the December thread because this one has been pretty bad. I thought so too until I checked soundings (ya' know it's boring when you start checking soundings at 180 hrs+) anyway, too warm at the surface (at least east of the mts), maybe ending as some flakes, that's all and before anyone says don't take it verbatim, I am; I am taking the qpf and the temp profile verbatim because we need both otoh, it is fair to say it's a "threat", but not much more going by the 6Z GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Weird that the best lurking to live vicariously through an anticipated snow event right now is in the SE forum with an eye on Northern MS and SW Tennessee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I thought so too until I checked soundings (ya' know it's boring when you start checking soundings at 180 hrs+) anyway, too warm at the surface (at least east of the mts), maybe ending as some flakes, that's all and before anyone says don't take it verbatim, I am; I am taking the qpf and the temp profile verbatim because we need both otoh, it is fair to say it's a "threat", but not much more going by the 6Z GFS Mitch, I'm proud of you. I always thought you the eternal optimist when it came to snow. I don't think the 06Z run looks good for snow. The pattern is a bad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Mitch, I'm proud of you. I always thought you the eternal optimist when it came to snow. I don't think the 06Z run looks good for snow. The pattern is a bad one. sadly, the reality that we're gonna' have to wait until after Christmas has set in anything that falls before then will be the fluke of flukes it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 sadly, the reality that we're gonna' have to wait until after Christmas has set in anything that falls before then will be the fluke of flukes it seems Is it really that bad though? We only have about a 12 week shot around here. I never count March in the snow season. It's nice to get March snow and all but it rarely sticks around for long and rarely happens. Out of the 12 week window we never have a full 12 weeks of favorable pattern anyway. If we're gonna throw 3 weeks down the toilet, it's better to take it on the chin at the beginning. If things look like crap a month from now then I'm joining Ji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I thought so too until I checked soundings (ya' know it's boring when you start checking soundings at 180 hrs+) anyway, too warm at the surface (at least east of the mts), maybe ending as some flakes, that's all and before anyone says don't take it verbatim, I am; I am taking the qpf and the temp profile verbatim because we need both otoh, it is fair to say it's a "threat", but not much more going by the 6Z GFS I don't think I'd put any faith in it even if everything looked great. I have zero confidence in any model solution beyond about 5 days. They may be somewhat skilled at predicting a general pattern of weather, but they don't seem too good to me at predicting "real" weather at that time frame. He had mentioned he thought that there might be something interesting at that time frame. That's really the only reason that I even posted that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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