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Mr Torchey

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Nothing but much above normal temps thru the next 2 weeks. No signs anywhere of a pattern change. The concern for Dec continues to grow each day

There will be some stabs of cold but yes..,above normal. Get it over with. Huge winter on the way. Just remember your famous thread 3 years ago: Congratulations Roger Smith.

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Was just looking at Sugarhouse cam at Okemo, nothing but brown to the summit, obviously they will not be opening on time this year, hopefully we can get a Real Pattern Change in here by the start of December, those peeps need it big time.

THis happens every year, delayed but not denied, its coming, until then get outside and enjoy the sizzle..........

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+2.4 for September

+3.6 for October

What will November bring???????? what an all out torch its been this fall, thats what makes the "week of freak" in the interior so incredible, an island of ice in a sea of fire.

Will be solidly above normal by the end of this week, more torchy times next week after a brief transient cooldown.

In fact if you go back all the way to March, its been pretty much above normal, every month at almost every SNE station, this pattern has been locked in, and its stable.

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In fact if you go back all the way to March, its been pretty much above normal, every month at almost every SNE station, this pattern has been locked in, and its stable.

Pattern goes back much further than that. Since December 2009, BDL and BOS have had only 4 months below normal. ORH has had 5, and PVD 6. Warm months are outnumbering cool months at a 4:1 clip over the last couple of years.

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We go through this every year. Things take time to change. Maybe it doesn't stick around for December, but people always freak out when they don't see an immediate change, however these things always take longer than expected.

Maybe if it does start later, for once we'll have a big Feb and March

It only takes one month to have a great winter. RE: LAST YEAR..

Scott are you still thinking possible snow threats for 11/20 to 12/5 time frame?

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LOL to the :sizzle: Emoticon love it. Must be Novie, ship jumpers galore. Patience grasshoppers patience. Really does show how historic that storm was though. Thoughts of snowstorms usually do not start until after the Turkey is basting in the oven.

Other than criticism and downed trees, its almost as if the storm never happened. Snow is almost gone here. It almost feels like late March out there.

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There will be some stabs of cold but yes..,above normal. Get it over with. Huge winter on the way. Just remember your famous thread 3 years ago: Congratulations Roger Smith.

LOL..I had forgotten about that. I just get mad when it's warm this time of year. And what makes it worse is when it's warm and there's no signals of any change to cold coming. I start to get bloated and irritable, and start snapping at people. It's a sickness. i guess the last 10 days really spoiled me..but I was ready for winter to begin and not end.. Now we're back to tube tops, thongs, mosquitoes, and hippies humping trees.

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LOL, Malloy said screw them the other day he is going to clear cut 50 feet either side of poles. Big bucks to be made if anyone is in the tree business. I am enjoying this weather, save on the early heat bill, get stuff done. Winter can come on schedule.

That will never happen. No way will they cut trees like that. Still alot of leaves up on the Oaks to come down.

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LOL, Malloy said screw them the other day he is going to clear cut 50 feet either side of poles. Big bucks to be made if anyone is in the tree business. I am enjoying this weather, save on the early heat bill, get stuff done. Winter can come on schedule.

That's how I feel, if it ain't gonna snow now might as well have mid 60s and 70s until the pattern flips.. what's the sense in having 40 degree temps if it ain't gonna snow?

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Pattern goes back much further than that. Since December 2009, BDL and BOS have had only 4 months below normal. ORH has had 5, and PVD 6. Warm months are outnumbering cool months at a 4:1 clip over the last couple of years.

That's pretty crazy but not surprising, I guess. Luckily warmer than normal can still snow a lot in most places in New England.

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The atlantic is getting PDOwned this winter. There's no doubt in my mind.

We go through this every year. Things take time to change. Maybe it doesn't stick around for December, but people always freak out when they don't see an immediate change, however these things always take longer than expected.

LOL to the :sizzle: Emoticon love it. Must be Novie, ship jumpers galore. Patience grasshoppers patience. Really does show how historic that storm was though. Thoughts of snowstorms usually do not start until after the Turkey is basting in the oven.

You guys are way to easy.......lol, I really don't care about snow last month this month or even the 1st part of December, It has no recreational value up here as the ground is not even close to frozen where we can retain it, And thats what i use it for, Until we get cold in here and the lakes and ponds are frozen you can't travel any great distances by snowmobile, I will take some warm daytime temps, I am way behind on getting fall stuff done so i welcome this weeks weather...

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You guys are way to easy.......lol, I really don't care about snow last month this month or even the 1st part of December, It has no recreational value up here as the ground is not even close to frozen where we can retain it, And thats what i use it for, Until we get cold in here and the lakes and ponds are frozen you can't travel any great distances by snowmobile, I will take some warm daytime temps, I am way behind on getting fall stuff done so i welcome this weeks weather...

Its a tough call... I'm loving the sunshine this time of year. However the ski areas are screwed for all the November 19th planned openings (Stowe, Sugarbush, Jay Peak, Okemo, list goes on). The next 12 days do not look favorable in any way... and even the cold nights this time of year below 2,000ft are inversion torches at the summit (ie 17F in the village the other night and 35F at the peak). We need good cold from the top-down starting with H85 and that isn't happening.

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Its a tough call... I'm loving the sunshine this time of year. However the ski areas are screwed for all the November 19th planned openings (Stowe, Sugarbush, Jay Peak, Okemo, list goes on). The next 12 days do not look favorable in any way... and even the cold nights this time of year below 2,000ft are inversion torches at the summit (ie 17F in the village the other night and 35F at the peak). We need good cold from the top-down starting with H85 and that isn't happening.

It hurts areas like yours and up here like SR, The loaf and Saddleback, Gains you make at night are lost during the day so from a skiers stand point it sucks

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It hurts areas like yours and up here like SR, The loaf and Saddleback, Gains you make at night are lost during the day so from a skiers stand point it sucks

Yeah we didn't even turn on the snowmaking system with this quick cool-shot this past weekend because it would be a waste of money with the upcoming pattern. Although snow preservation is amazing on the East Slope of the Berkshires we do not have the same luxury up here ;) Not with 50-60F daytime temps forecast.

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You guys are way to easy.......lol, I really don't care about snow last month this month or even the 1st part of December, It has no recreational value up here as the ground is not even close to frozen where we can retain it, And thats what i use it for, Until we get cold in here and the lakes and ponds are frozen you can't travel any great distances by snowmobile, I will take some warm daytime temps, I am way behind on getting fall stuff done so i welcome this weeks weather...

Yeah I agree. Snow and cold this time of year do nothing down here, but we are getting to the point where we want to see some changes take place. I think we are seeing signs of change, but it will take a while. Until then, it's more weenie toaster tub posts.

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LOL..I had forgotten about that. I just get mad when it's warm this time of year. And what makes it worse is when it's warm and there's no signals of any change to cold coming. I start to get bloated and irritable, and start snapping at people. It's a sickness. i guess the last 10 days really spoiled me..but I was ready for winter to begin and not end.. Now we're back to tube tops, thongs, mosquitoes, and hippies humping trees.

We're going to the promised land this winter. Lots of big storms and not ending 2/10!

I've NEVER seen a winter get cold early and stay. Maybe 76-77 but snow was not as robust. 93-94 was warm till Christmas. 95-96 went back and forth all winter but didn't deliver decent cold/snow until the week after Thanksgiving followed by the pattern warming until around 12/9. 2004-05 went back and forth until the pattern set in mid January. Last year didn't get serious until the 2nd week in December. I remember my bday having showers with temps around 60 last year.

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